Hey Woody, I was thinking of crow hill the other day but figured it would be pretty wet!! Can't do the gunks this weekend...grandson's B day. Wanted to join the group though...Definitly up for climbing at crow or at the gym, let me know when works for you. I have PT Tuesday nites. Was at EMS yesterday and the girl was trying to fit my boots for the Alps...they were telling me what their Mountaineer guy does- Alan