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Sounds like my co-worker was correct then. I'm going to have to explore that area a bit more the next time i'm there.

I just talked to a co worker who said the cave on the loop trail is not "fat man's misery". I guess there used to be another section of trail on the mountain that is no longer passable and therefore not used. He said many people often confuse features of the loop trail (fissure cave) with the...

Long time lurker first time poster... I hiked the loop trail last October and the trail was passable. Is the chimney the scramble through the cave with the assistance of metal rungs? If that collapsed then it happened this winter as i had no problems in October. The entrance into the cave can...