Adk p50 list

[RoySwkr]

Here is a list of the 50+ most prominent peaks in the Adirondack Park boundary, while it has been reviewed by Edward Earle I'm sure some of you Adk types may still find an error or 2.

There are a couple unusual peaks so maybe this list hasn't been completed yet.

prom|summit |summit quad |summit el|saddle |saddle quad |saddle el

4925|Marcy, Mt |Mount Marcy |1629m|Erie Canal|Rome|419
3110|Whiteface Mtn|Lake Placid |1483m|Ray Brk/RR|SaranacLake|530+5m
2969|Giant Mtn |Elizabethtown |1410m|Rte.73|Elizabethtown|500+5m
2821|Dix Mtn |Mount Marcy |1470+5m|Boreas Pd|Mount Marcy |610+5m
2426|Santanoni Pk |Santanoni Peak|1404m|Upper Pd|Santanoni Peak|664.4m
2280|Black Mtn |Shelving Rock |2640+10|Rte.149 20'fill|Lake George|360+10
2247|Lyon Mtn |Moffitsville |3820+10|Rte.3|Tupper Lake|480+2.5m
2241|Snowy Mtn |Indian Lake |1188m|Round Pd|Kempshall Mtn|500+5m
2113|Algonquin Pk |Keene Valley |1559m|Avalanch|Keene Valley|910+5m
2036|Seward Mtn |Ampersand Lake|1320+5m|Moose Pd |Ampersand Lake|704.4m

1988|Hurricane Mtn|Elizabethtown |1121m|Rte.9N|Elizabethtown|510+5m
1962|Hoffman Mtn |Blue Ridge |1129m|Hoffman Notch|Blue Ridge |528+3m
1929|Blue Mtn |Blue Mtn Lake |1140+3m|Rte.30 |Blue Mtn Lake|552+3m
1870|Gore Mtn |Thirteenth Lak|1086+3m|Mossy Vly|Page Mtn|516+3m
1744|Crane Mtn |Johnsburg |3240+10|Garnet Lk S|Bakers Mills|456+3m
1686|Vanderwhacker|Newcomb |1039m|Col NE |Newcomb|522+3m
1685|Kilburn Mtn |Lake Placid |1183m|Rte.73|Keene Valley|669.3m
1670|Puffer Mtn |Thirteenth Lak|1052m|Col NE |ThirteenthLk|540+3m
1660|Debar Mtn |Debar Mtn |3300+10|col SE |Debar Mtn |1640+10
1640|Kempshall Mtn|Kempshall Mtn |1020+5m|Col SW |Deerland|522+3m

1631|Wakely Mtn(3)|Wakely Mtn |1148m|Little Moose Lk|Wakely Mtn|648+3m
1604|Pharaoh Mtn |Pharaoh Mtn |2556|Eagle Lake 945|Eagle Lake|940+10
1600|Loon Lake Mtn|Debar Mtn |3320+10|col NE |Loon Lake|1720+10
1600|Vanderburg Mt|Whitehall |1920+10|CR-16|Shelving Rock|320+10
1591|Hail Mtn |Eagle Lake |2680+10|Rte.9|Witherbee|330+5m
1516|Hamilton Mtn |Wells |990+3m|Fawn Lake|Wells|528+3m
1512|Catamount Mtn|Wilmington |966m|col SW|Wilmington|500+5m
1509|Dun Brook Mtn|Deerland |1099m|Col W |Deerland|636+3m
1489|Black SpruceM|Warrensburg |2359|I-87 |Lake George |860+10
1476|Sawtooth Rnge|Ampersand Lake|1170+5m|col SW |Ampersand Lake|720+5m

1434|NorthRiverMtn|Mount Marcy |1182m|col NE |Mount Marcy |740+5m
1411|Morris, Mt |Tupper Lake |956m|Little Tupper Lake 523.8m|Little Tupper Lake?|522+3m
1411|Old Rang Mtn |Au Sable Forks|695m|col NW |Au Sable Forks|260+5m
1388|Moose Mtn |Saranac Lake |1188m|col E |Lake Placid|760+5m
1378|Dug Mtn |Page Mtn |984+3m|Col N |Page Mtn|564+3m
1378|Nippletop |Mount Marcy |1400+5m|Hunters Pass|Mount Marcy|980+5m
1352|Three PondsMt|Three PondsMtn|918+3m|Canada Lk|MoreMtn|1660+10
1345|Ampersand Mtn|Ampersand Lake|1010+5m|col NE |Ampersand Lake|600+5m|
1300|Owl Pate |Paradox Lake |2440+10|Black Brk Pds |Eagle Lake|1140+10
1280|Street Mtn |Ampersand Lake|1260+5m|Indian Pass|Ampersand Lake|870+5m

1273|Blue Hills 4|Baker Mills |895m|Col NW |Baker Mills|504+3m
1270|SaddlebackMtn|Lewis |1102m|col S |Lewis |710+5m
1247|Niagara/Nippl|Blue Ridge |920+5m|col N |540+5m|Mount Marcy
1242|St. Regis Mtn|St. Regis Mtn |876m|Rolley Pd |St. Regis Mtn |495+2.5m
1240|*Horse HillRd|Edinburg |2040+10|Rte.29 |Gloversville|800+10
1220|Ragged Lk Mtn|Ragged Lake |2740+10|col S |Ragged Lake |1520+10
1220|Little Moose |Wakely Mtn |1107m|Lost Pd. |Wakely Mtn|732+3m
1220|Big Range |Page Mtn |1026+3m|Siamese Pds |Baker Mills?|654+3m
1214|Raven Hill |Elizabethtown |595m|Rte.9N|Elizabethtown|220+5m
1203|Duncan Mtn |Alder Brook |2729|Union Falls Pd|Wilmington|460+5m
-50

1194|Panther Mtn |Indian Lake |1177m|Col S |Indian Lake|810+3m
1194|Cascade/Portr|Keene Valley |1249m|col S |Keene Valley|880+5m
1186|Fivemile Mtn |Silver Bay |2256|col N |Silver Bay |1060+10
1181|Bailey/Washbu|Blue Ridge |930+3m|Sand Pond|Blue Ridge |570+3m

 

[skidoc22]

Pardon my ignorance but how does one calculate or measure prominence?

 

[Tom Rankin]

If no one has done it, I'll bet Spencer (aka peak_bgr) is the closest! His goal is to hike every ADK mountain named on any quad map, and I believe he has over 800 to date!

 

[bigmoose]

Brilliant!
A nice new list for us prominence freaks.
Alas, I can only claim twenty of these... so far....

 

[Papa Bear]

Pardon my ignorance but how does one calculate or measure prominence?

Short answer: The prominence is the height of the peak above the col to the next higher peak. It's used to distinguish "real peaks" (like Katahdin) from mere bumps on the side of real peaks (like Clay). The AMC White Mountain 4000 footers (aka the 48) uses a 200' prominence rule which you may be familiar with under other names.

Long answer: read this.

 

[albee]

Interesting.

Just out of curiosity, how can a pond or a lake be a saddle? Boreas Pond, Fawn Lake, and others are listed in the "saddle" column. I haven't checked the quad maps, so the info here could well be correct, but I'm just interested in the theory of how a standing body of water that has shores could be the highest point at the saddle. Wouldn't there have to be some embankment on at least one side to keep the pond from draining into either side of the saddle? (Unless the summit was an island in the pond...)

Did you compile this list, PB? I started trying to come up with a P1000' list for NH but abandoned it because it was a TON of pretty darn meticulous work!

 

[adktyler]

Wow, that's AWESOME. Did you put that together all yourself?

 

[Papa Bear]

...
Did you compile this list, PB? I started trying to come up with a P1000' list for NH but abandoned it because it was a TON of pretty darn meticulous work!

Alas, although I live in NY (NYC to be exact) I'm almost entirely a New England Hiker. I did complete the New England Fifty Finest (to use a title that gets some folks indignant). See my signature for that link. As for the ADKs - maybe next year .

I do believe any of these prominence lists are great since they get you to a wider geographic area (since generally just the highest peak in each range will make it to such a list), and you get to some peaks you would never otherwise get to.

 

[albee]

I said compile, not complete...

 

[Papa Bear]

I said compile, not complete...

Compile, no. The only prominence list I ever worked on was for the Torngats which I did with Greg Slayden in 2004 (see).

This was list was Roy's, who with Edward Earl collaborated in producing a list of all peaks with 1000+ feet of prominence in NY State. Check the recent messages in this Yahoo Group: Prominence group

 

[dr_wu002]

Did you compile this list, PB? I started trying to come up with a P1000' list for NH but abandoned it because it was a TON of pretty darn meticulous work!

I started working on this as well sometime last year but never got around to finishing it. I was going to ask the same question. Nice list! I really like prominence lists because, like I've said before, they give you an interesting look at an entire mountainous region and don't just cut off below a certain height threshold (4k list) or have too many peaks on it for me to feel motivated towards climbing (3k lists).

-Dr. Wu

 

[Mark Schaefer]

Just out of curiosity, how can a pond or a lake be a saddle? Boreas Pond, Fawn Lake, and others are listed in the "saddle" column. I haven't checked the quad maps, so the info here could well be correct, but I'm just interested in the theory of how a standing body of water that has shores could be the highest point at the saddle. Wouldn't there have to be some embankment on at least one side to keep the pond from draining into either side of the saddle? (Unless the summit was an island in the pond...)

It would be possible if the lake had two outlets, in opposite directions into two separate watersheds. That might be the result of human or beaver constructions. In the large marsh area that separates the Boreas Ponds from the Ausable Lakes watershed it might be natural. But I suspect in most cases the saddle is just very near the lake on a shallow embankment. It may have been just more concise to identify the critical col / saddle as the lake.

 

[RoySwkr]

It would be possible if the lake had two outlets, in opposite directions into two separate watersheds. That might be the result of human or beaver constructions. In the large marsh area that separates the Boreas Ponds from the Ausable Lakes watershed it might be natural. But I suspect in most cases the saddle is just very near the lake on a shallow embankment. It may have been just more concise to identify the critical col / saddle as the lake.

That answer is correct, usually the lake name is just used to identify the col (as are road names, often the road isn't at exact low spot) but on some lists there are some lakes/swamps with 2 or 0 outlets shown on the map.

EE & I made separate lists and compared them, I believe he did it all online while I visited a lot of libraries to look at paper maps.

 

[PINPIN JUNIOR]

the last fontier...

Hi Roy.

Last monday in Owl Pate, the rabbit finished this nice new challenge....Onconman e-mail Us We will need only 13 summits after the 3,000Adk feet list and We think it will be a nice thing to go in this way.

We will try to made the same thing in the next Winter season!!

But this new goal will be in a second place for the next Winter.....

It was a easy approach in the Moose Lake trail but a challenging bushike with a lot of blowdonds and cliffs to summit Owl Pate......in a nice sunny day with a couple of black flies...

Thank You for this infornation.

Pinpin the 3th

 

[Tom Rankin]

1476|Sawtooth Rnge|Ampersand Lake|1170+5m|col SW |Ampersand Lake|720+5m

Do you know which one of the Sawtooth mountains this is?

 

[Mark Schaefer]

1476|Sawtooth Rnge|Ampersand Lake|1170+5m|col SW |Ampersand Lake|720+5m

Do you know which one of the Sawtooth mountains this is?

Only one of the Sawtooths is listed on the p50 list. Sawtooth #1, the highest peak in the Range, would have the greatest prominence of the range peaks. The prominence of Sawtooth #1 is determined from a relatively low col leading to a yet higher range (containing Seward). All of the lower Sawtooth Range mountains would have their prominence determined from higher cols with respect to Sawtooth #1. Thus they would have less prominence than Sawtooth #1. So Sawtooth #1 would be the peak on the p50 list.