Cliff on Sat Jul 23

[critter]

Anyone planning on climbing Cliff on Sat? I am planning on leaving from the Loj Saturday morning and day hiking Cliff. Just one more after Cliff to complete the 46. Also can anyone convince me to hike from Upperworks instead? It is about the same drive either way so the only issue is the hiking part. Let me know if you are planning on Cliff that day.

 

[Rivet]

Also can anyone convince me to hike from Upperworks instead?

I think it's somewhat shorter and with less climbing from UW (since you don't have to go over that bump near Lake Arnold). I don't have numbers in front of me.

 

[AntlerPeak]

It looks like this is a case of choose your own poison. I looked in the HP Guide as a matter of curiosity. It is 6.8 Miles to the begining of the Herd path from the LOJ. You have that ugly climb to Lake Arnold reaching 3772 feet only to drop down to 3319 at the junction near Uphill Brook. It gets quite wet south of Lake Arnold but then again the Calamity trail can get wet too.

From the UW it is 7.4 miles to the herd path without that extra assent. So the question is how does the .6 compare to the extra climb up to Lake Arnold. To make sure this is not an easy riddle to resolve Heart Lake is at 2179 feet UW is 1718. In other words if you don't climb the extra four hundred feet on the Lake Arnold side you will anyway as UW begins 460 lower.

There was some value in that wet nasty Twin Brook Trail after all. It sort of resolved all of this with its direct route from UW. Have fun and good luck.

 

[spaddock]

Hey Critter,

A buddy and I are going to be hiking Cliff this Saturday and we're starting from Upper Works. I prefer the UW approach as i just hate Lake Arnold for whatever reason.

We're gonna be crashing at the trailhead late Friday night to set us up for an early start on Saturday morning.


-Shayne

 

[fior1212]

Cliff

I hiked the upper works trail last Friday and did Redfield. The trail was a little muddy between the lean-tos at the flowed lands and uphill lean-to but only in spots. It took about 10 hours.

Review the trail conditions at this link:

http://www.vftt.org/trail/ny/3273.html

It helped me find the trail.

Mike