Crashing Through The Woods: Redrock Ravine, 7/25

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dr_wu002

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Anyone that followed last weeks chatter about Redrock Ravine and Redrock Pond (Bear Pond) could've guessed that I was planning a trip there this past weekend. You were right -- Eric (Barbarossa) and Yam and I (Dr. "Amateur Bushwhacker" Wu visited Redrock Ravine on Sunday in search of this little mountain pond and we had a blast of a trip but came home without so much as a glance at the pond.

Redrock Pond, if you look at your map of the Pemi you can find it, is nestled between Southwest Twin and West Bond in the Redrock Ravine (right below the Southwest Twin headwall). The area has no trails but anyone fortunate enough to have had a bright, clear day on the Franconia Ridge may have noticed a number of old logging roads on the lower slopes of the Twin Range. In fact (this is on a map right at the Lincoln Woods Visitor Center too), a railroad spur veers off from the Franconia Brook Trail and heads south before parabolically arcing east towards Redrock Brook. When the spur ends, you can scout around and pick up the logging roads or follow the brook bed as Redrock Brook heads underground about a mile east of where it crosses the Franconia Brook Trail.

This is probably where I led us astray... I focused too hard on reading the vague description from the 50 Hikes in NH book rather than relying on instinct and probably ended up on the wrong dry brook bed. Instead of hitting the pond in the Northern most cirque of Redrock Ravine we ended up in the Northeastern cirque next door! How embarrassing! I'm now 0/3 on destinations in the bushwhacks that I've led. Dr. No Navigation Skills indeed!

Actually, I had trouble getting a good compass bearing as the stream bed tended to meander (straight line on the map) and in general I believed we were heading in the correct direction. We weren't -- and no matter, the cirque we ended up in was about as beautiful as we could have imagined!

(see Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/403921321VcDhMJ)

The nice thing about bushwhacks -- or at least the ones I've been on so far -- is that they're so much fun regardless of if you make your destination or not. Sure, it would have been great to find the pond (we will some day), but we had a wonderful walk along the lost railbed, scoped out the logging roads cut into the mountains slopes, walked along the dry and eventually very mossy brook bed, and explored a very open and impressive glacial cirque. The two massive slides on the slopes of the Guyot Headwall which opened up in 1994 were particularly impressive and one can get a fresh sense of the destructive forces with came down with.

The other thing is, especially with good friends, bushwhacking is just so damn fun. We crashed through the woods, got & laughed about scrapes and cuts, chatted about Gary Moody, ate lunch on a large talus field on Guyot's slope looking up at West Bond, Owl's Head & the Franconia Ridge and just had a fun, mellow 20 miles of hikin' together. This was my 3rd bushwhack with the Red Beard (Barbarossa) and while I'm 0/3 with destinations, I'd have to say that we've been 3/3 with great times. This was also my first hike with Amy (Yam) and she crashed her way through the nasty, thick woods (we hit some really thick stuff!) and seemed to have as much fun as we did!

Ending up in the wrong cirque made me feel like quite a moron. I thought we were close to the pond but just never saw it. When I got home and looked at pictures I just shook my head. It's worse than accidentally walking into the woman's restroom at work. I put us on the wrong stream bed and into the wrong cirque for crying out loud! However, where we did end up was gorgeous and lovely and we might not have visited it otherwise. The beauty of the trip and the continuing allure of the elusive (to people with zero navigation skills at least) pond guarantee that we'll make a return trip someday soon enough!

PS. At the end of the trip we met some veteran VFTTers: Sapblatt, Audrey, Pat, Cantdog and Littlebear! What an added bonus!
 
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When you decide to go back let me know, I want to come along! I've only been on a hanful of buchwhacks so far so who knows where we might end up! Great pictures too! :)

-MEB
 
Even though you missed the pond, looks like you still had a great time. Have you thought up a name for your newly explored ravine?

I was hoping you had some pics from the top of that slide :D
 
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Regardless if we would have found the pond or not, (I had no clue where in the heck we were half the time, anyway!) it was definately a great time. I loved bushwacking through the trees and then popping out onto the rock slide! Nothing more rewarding than seeing the beauty of the land up close.

Great to meet so many new faces on the trail (and in the parking lot).

Ravine pics (looks like some dups to Dr. Wu's)
 
You don't say how you got back to the car, but it looked like you were well up on the slide. I have been up to both the Guyot-Bond and Bond-W Bond cols from Redrock Brook and then you get to go down over Bondcliff :)
 
As long as you didn't end up on the wrong side of the Bonds...

:)

I'm jealous - I definitely need to get in that area sometime. Perhaps combine it with a descent of, or climb to, West Bond. Ah, for more weekends...
 
dr_wu002 said:
Ending up in the wrong cirque made me feel like quite a moron.

That's what you get for following a book. Use the force, Luke!

dr_wu002 said:
It's worse than accidentally walking into the woman's restroom at work.

...but not as bad as losing your ring ;]
dr_wu002 said:
However, where we did end up was gorgeous and lovely and we might not have visited it otherwise. The beauty of the trip and the continuing allure of the elusive (to people with zero navigation skills at least) pond guarantee that we'll make a return trip someday soon enough!

PS. At the end of the trip we met some veteran VFTTers: Sapblatt, Audrey, Pat, Cantdog and Littlebear! What an added bonus!

It was great to put faces to all of these names.

We found a great ravine and we found our way out. What more could we want?
 
It doesn't look like you missed anything! A fabulous destination!

When we crossed Redrock Brook on Saturday, there was a well-beaten path (bigger than the trail) going up the south side of the brook. We surmised it leads to the cirque.
 
Is it my imagination, or do the slides in the ravine you ended up in look much fresher than the ones in the ravine you were heading for??
 
Thanks for replying Everyone! We did have a great time on this trip, pond or not. For me it was extra special because I've done a lot of long trips alone lately and the chance to get to go out for this 20+ miler with some great friends always makes it better! We didn't consider naming the small cirque that we were in but I think it's safe to say we'd all agree on "Gary's Bane" if we did.
SherpaKroto said:
Yeah, count me in too! I might even cheat by bringing along some electronic assistance :)
Eric brought a can of pineapples so we don't need any of your electronic arts! :p
RoySwkr said:
You don't say how you got back to the car, but it looked like you were well up on the slide.
We followed the dry brook bed back to where the water comes up into Redrock Brook via spring. From there we picked up the logging road and eventually dropped down onto the railbed and out to the Franconia Brook Trail. I had the added bonus of when we spotted the Franconia Brook Trail I basically tumbled out of the woods and almost crashed into an unsuspecting hiker walking the FB trail. He pretended like he hadn't seen me!
audrey said:
When we crossed Redrock Brook on Saturday, there was a well-beaten path (bigger than the trail) going up the south side of the brook. We surmised it leads to the cirque.
No, this just leads to an easier brook crossing. If you keep going on it it peters out after a while, I believe. We certainly didn't notice any well worn paths in there. We continued north on FB Trail and the RR bed is on your right after about a mile. The bed actually heads south before arcing east towards Redrock Brook. It peters out after about 1.5 miles. If you look on one of the big boards with a map at the Lincoln Woods Visitor Center there is an old hand drawn map that shows the rail bed we followed. It's overgrown but there's signs of some use and is very easy to follow. The logging road is a little trickier.

-Dr. Wu
 
AMF said:
Is it my imagination, or do the slides in the ravine you ended up in look much fresher than the ones in the ravine you were heading for??
Off hand (I can't think for the moment) I don't know that I have a good, clear picture of the big slides in the Cirque with the pond. However, I do know (with some certainty) that the slides we were on (the ones on the headwall of Guyot) opened up in 1994, so they are indeed quite fresh. The most impressive part actually is seeing what you can't see from other view points -- just how far the slide dredges through the ground. It looks like the hull of a ship!

-Dr. Wu
 
Great hikes make great posts

"Eric brought a can of pineapples so we don't need any of your electronic arts!"
This sentence is a candidate for the single-most bizarre statement in the history of the web site. Eric Idle would be proud to have written this line.
You're not the first to bushwack the wrong brook. I went to Thoreau Falls for the first time in the early 1970s. It was in the spring in high water and we bushwacked along Whitewall Brook to the Zeacliff Trail to the Ethan Pond Trail and out to the Zealand parking lot. 25 years later I went to Thoreau Falls with my son in August. Whitewall Brook was dried up, almost invisible and I figured that couldn't be it so we bushwacked the next creek until it was obvious we were starting to climb toward Zealand Pond.
In reviewing that map, I noticed there is a stream that appears to run near the Guyot shelter southeast toward the East Branch. According to the map, it is Jumping Brook or a tributary. It drops over 2800 feet and crosses some tightly bunched lines. Must have some nice waterfalls.
Has anyone here done that bushwack?
Please post when you are going to try for Redrock Pond.
 
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