Gothics attempt. 10-29. With Rico.

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Neil

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Thank God I didn’t go into the Sawtooths as initially planned!
Instead, Rico came by the Ark Trail Motel at 6 Saturday morning and after spotting a car at The Ausable Club we headed up towards Johns Brook Lodge. The trail was best bare-booted and there sure were a lot of fully leafed Beech saplings bowed down across the trail! The leaves were covered with ice and snow but luckily the temp was below freezing so we remained dry. We cruised at a reasonable pace, conseving energy, and gradually the snow depth increased. At the second LT in a couple of guys from Montreal were pretty freaked out to see all that snow. By the time we got to the Lodge environs there was lots and lots of beautiful postcard-white fluffy stuff. On our way we got nice views of the Bennies slide. Passing a lean-to with 3 or 4 guys getting organized someone said, “Are you Neil?” Ah, fame is such a burden. Like us, Adkdreamn from the Adkforum was gunnin’ for Gothics. On we went, our pace had gradually increased and eventually we got to that point when it was time to put the snowshoes on. The trip up the Orebed Brook was quite an experience, I must say. The crap across the trail was never-ending and it sent many a snow shower down our backs. We spent plenty of time and energy going around, under and over mother nature’s handiwork. Personally, I was in fine fettle and thanks to a few weeks of hard training and even some serious weight loss felt unstoppable and was infused with a happiness that only you, the reader, can relate to.

Break time came at the Orebed LT and a family of Montrealers was there cooking a meal and cursing the conditions. After a quick bite we continued on our merry way. The snow kept getting deeper and deeper and deeper. At times, there was no snow on the trail itself due to running water. This was new: we snowshoed on a bed of submerged leaves with knee high snow on both sides. We hit a few real bad patches of deep snow and thick blowdown but the energizer bunnies in our legs were kicking out power like there was no tomorrow. We were especially thinking of the 5-star views we would be enjoying as we climbed the cable route and summited Gothics.

Just after we crossed a major tributary of the Orebed a couple of Montrealers (the place was infested!) caught up with us. I paused to let Nathalie pass and she came to a screeching halt upon seeing there was no more broken trail. “Your turn” said I. LOL. Nathalie and Gilles were two hard-core and determined hikers all right and we made a good team of four as we progressed. Gooseberry Mountain was covered in a white, sun drenched mantle of wedding cake icing and helped us guage our slowing progress. We started having trouble sticking with the trail and before long found ourselves bushwhacking up the ever increasing pitch and ever increasing snow depth. Just as I feared, we hit a wall of Spruce. The snow on the uphill side of my thigh was indeed mid-thigh in height and totally unconsolidated. Every step became an effort of Herculean proportions. To make a long story short, after floundering around, backtracking, finding and losing the trail the energizer bunnies started to wind down. The idea of pushing and pushing and maybe summiting very, very late in the day soaking wet and exhausted was kinda unappealing to this old geezer and my sprightly companion Rico, so after 6 hours of trucking to get to the base of the Gothics-Saddleback col headwall (Gooseberry’s second bump was 280 degrees grid from us.) we turned the bows of our ships 180 degrees for what we knew would be a long hike out. After checking the map Rico pointed out that the col was 200 feet vertical HIGHER that Gooseberry’s main summit and when I translated that nifty piece of beta to our friends they did the fastest about-face I’ve ever seen.

The trip out was wonderful though. The sun and our previous passage had done a great job on the trail and the heat was a balm on our souls. The snow bombs were awesome except Rico took a hit from a big chunk of ice right on the top of his head. Ouch! The water was pouring off the trees like a shower and what had been deep snow on the way in was now a muddy track on the ground thanks in part to a group of 10 Montrealers (encore!) who thought they would be going to Gothics sans snowshoes. Hah! I would of loved to have watched them when they got to our turnaround point!

As we exited we chatted with several groups of people who had had experiences very similar to ours on different mountains. While resting at the 2nd LT 4 youngsters (early 20’s) came up to the LT and we yucked it up for a while. We surmised that no one summited anything that day although I thought maybe Phelps would have been doable. When they said they were doing Whiteface by the road on the morrow a light bulb went off in my head and I realized that that was where the smart money would be found.

So, stay tuned for my Whiteface TR. :D
 
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Excellent!! I'm out paddling and you're up there finding deep stuff!! Great state this NY. I feel I have to say it again... THANKS, you're being there doing your duty saved many of us from thinking we should have been there. You take away all such pressure. Good to be out in it for many hours regardless of hitting a summit.
 
Neil said:
Passing a lean-to with 3 or 4 guys getting organized someone said, “Are you Neil?” Ah, fame is such a burden.

Hah! Soon you won't be able to go to the market w/o being swamped for autographs!

Nice TR and pics. I know what you mean about the bowed over beeches. I just spent a few hours yesterday working my way through them in the Catskills. The difference down here is much less snow depth and it was melting very fast. Nobody was in 'shoes and there was a lot of sluch and water on the trail. Glad you had a nice time regardless of not summiting. Let's hope this early snow foreshadows a powder-filled winter!

Bubba wrote: "Excellent!! I'm out paddling and you're up there finding deep stuff!! Great state this NY."

I agree-the variety of our state is something I've always loved. Yesterday I was in snowy balsam fir forest on a Catskill summit, then I drove 50 miles home and my housemate had the front door open and the ceiling fan on since it had been so hot!

Matt
 
Gothics under the snow!!!!!

Hi Neil,

Yes Junior agreed with You: You took the best decision to do not go in Sawtooth Range.... :)

But You just passed on the bad side of Gothics....We do not think the other side was more friendly but Junior had his pink head!! ;)

With the Queen, We start at 7h. 35 m. from the Golf Club (St-Hubert), on the road nothing trouble, nice confortable snowmobile tracks and we take the usual time to arrive at the dam.
Immedaitely We put the snowshoes on, We hiked in near of one foot of heavy snow...slowly, slowly, slowly...We progressed and the snow also progressed over two feet. Each step was a challenge, We never know if You will stay on the top of the snow or go down with a new step over 18 inches in from Us. A couple time We have the impression to stay in the top but when We move the weight in the from leg We return a the first position.
After a couple time outside the trail, with all the snow in the trees I can not stay always in the trail a few new blowdown and many branches was on the snow.
But usualy Junior kik me with his left or right leg to insite me to return in the trail....
After 3h 30 minute We catch the Gothics Sawteeth junction, it was one hour more of the usual time to catch the Sawteeth summit, I remove my packsac and move a little bit faster...just a little bit.
When We arrive in Sawteeth's top the view was terrible, all the summits every side was incredible WHITE!!!OUF!!!
Janet ask Me if We have a headlamp, because with all my innocence We signed for all the Range!!!!Ouf!!! And also We know the Queen come with Us only for Sawteth because She will have a bird watching meeting in the afternoon.
We answer, Yes We have, but We tell Her also, We will go to Gothics and We will see what We will go after!!
It was a other memorable match beween the snow and Junior, a couple of time We falling beween two rocks and I have the snow exactly a egality of my shoulders!!!
On the shoulder of Gothics the snow was changing very soft and sticky where the sun make his mirror and very dry on the shadow, the resultat very heavy snowshoes. But Gothics is only on the other side of this small col...Junior made a giant jump and We are over the trees line the wind transforme the cloth in icy cloth but We know it was just for the time to cross this small place.

Without break We start to go down the col to go at Armstrong...after 20 minutes of wresling with the wet snow without base I need to accept We have nothing chance for the Ridge... and continue in this direction to catch Armstrong and open a new way to return on the lake route with this snow condition and the good chance to finish in the dark time with also the possibily to lose the route...We take the decision to return over Gothics.

At the junction of Sawteeth We see other snowshoes traks used Our tracks. But around 20 minutes later We see this peoples put their snowshoes on only at this place, the perfect snowshoes tracks was covered by too many holes!!!!
PLEASE, Please, please if You are happy to hike in the snowshoes tracks respects this thing ang think at the people after You!!!
We meet two other quebeckers groupes without snowshoes, Yes I know We have'n snow in Montreal but when You see snow in the parking You are sure You will catch deep snow in the mountain.

We return at the car after 8 hours and 20 minutes We are a little tire, but also with a good satisfaction for the first snowshoes day it was a good test!!!
We are a little bit disappointed :( to be able make only Sawteeth and Gothics, before We read the comment in the register from the people's gaols mountain: none, impossible and after I think I saw small smile in the Junior's face! :D

The Nature always stay the winner when the small unt take the decision to defy Her...It was a excellente humility lesson..thank You Mother NATURE!!!

Sunday We have a other great difficult hike in Big Slides...a other story for memories!!! :confused:

Pinpin Junior
 
Pin-Pin,
The thought that one side of Gothics might have easier conditions than the other never crossed our minds for even a second. We left a car at the golf club at 7:00 so we must have just missed you. Too bad, we could have shared the work. Then maybe we would have gotten the loop over Armstrong.

I guess if anybody made it to the top of something it would be you. The DEC could have made a lot of money issuing tickets for disobeyance of the 8 inch law! :D Most of the people I talked to had no idea there would be so much snow! I think the sun and warmth will melt all the snow anyway.

I had planned on doing Sawtooth 4,2 and 5 on Sat. and Sun. I can hear mother nature laughing her head off right now! :D
 
Neil said:
Pin-Pin,
Too bad, we could have shared the work.
You mean... Pin-Pin could have broken trail and we could have stomped it down :D It was disappointing we didn't reach our goal, but I believe every now and then it is good to be thoroughly and absolutely humbled my Mother Nature. I haven't downloaded photos yet... probably tomorrow. Is your jacket dry yet?
 
I know how THAT goes!

rico said:
You mean... Pin-Pin could have broken trail and we could have stomped it down :D

I remember one winter's day, on Sawtooth 1, Pin-Pin told me he mightn't have made it if I hadn't helped break trail. But I know he was only trying to boost my confidence. That was the only day all that winter, except when I soloed, that I got to break trail ;)
 
PINPIN JUNIOR said:
Hi Neil,

We are a little bit disappointed :( to be able make only Sawteeth and Gothics, before We read the comment in the register from the people's gaols mountain: none, impossible and after I think I saw small smile in the Junior's face! :D
Pinpin Junior

I am the one who sign off with the "Impossible" comment PINPIN Jr.
And i put you a note after your name in the book. Did you see it?
Happy for you you reach 2 summit.
But for me..... an other day.
 
Gothics.....

Hi Neil, Rico, Yvon & other peoples take the time to read my poor english report...

Neil: "Most of people I talked to had no idea there would be so much snow"

We agree with You and specialy with the 2 quebeckers in short & t-shirt We saw near the third Brother...They tell Us "We are the tourisms".

"I think the sun and the warm will melt all the snow anyway"

Not sure, with over 3 feet of snow in the summits mountains, We need a lot of sun and rain to melt all this snow.
Anyway We hope the experience of last weekend push all the people will had a plan to hike the next weekend do not take chance and put the snoshoes on your packsack and when They will see more of 8 inches of snow put on the snowshoes!!!

Yvon: Yes We did.

We spoke also with Guy & Christime You meet Saturday.

Please Yvon do not think We put this :D was not to ridicule You or nothing other people We have a great respect for every peolpe had the courage to hike last weekend with the snow conditions.

We had to accept the verdict of Mother Nature... ;)

Have a great week!

Pinpin Junior. :)
 
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