Thx Jim...just came back from a pizza dinner and a walk around a little village with the wife and 2 of my children....got some black licorice and candy canes.....I'm going to attempt to go on a club trip on 12/28 ...I think it's Vly and Bearpen....my knees are sore but maybe with enough meds before and after I'll have fun while outdoors...hope 2 see you soon....CF