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Do yourself a favor... Pick up a copy of Don Mellor's "Climbing in the Adirondacks". It is the comprehensive guide to rock, ice, and slide routes. :D

Check the archives There was a lengthy thread about conditioning and joint pain a few months back. A lot of good advice was posted. I suggest you check back in the archived posts. KZ

As a point of comparison, NEIce.com has a used gear section where members can post used climbing equipment for sale. It is not heavily used, but several posts a week is common. It is transparent to the rest of the site, and I see no mention of it in other posts. I have seen no evidence of...

JohnL: I think that is the secret formula for "Goo" KZ :D

Bob - You may not be the fastest but you more than make up for it "with style"!!!!! Congratulations again! KZ

We saw one along the road just after leaving the Santanoni Range parking lot on Saturday. Looked like an very healthy adolescent. DeadFred told me he saw a moose outside of Blue Ridge the week before.

Bob - Congratulations, we were eagerly awaiting the report of your success. Climbed Santanoni with Fred Saturday - This puts Garen, Fred, and I at 45 with Allen left to go. Looked across at Donalson and Emmons and thought about how good it must have felt for you. Hopefully we'll know that...

If you do it you'd be no slacker. There is a lot of elevation gain, especially climbing the Wolfjaws notch between Upper and Lower Wolfjaws. I've done Basin, Saddleback, Gothics, Armstrong, and Upper Wolfjaw (about 18 miles) in a day in under 10 hrs. If you tack on Marcy & Lower Wolfjaw and...

Rick - PM me your email address and I can send you a file with detailed directions. KZ

Man's best friend.... Fred - Don't forget Dakota!!!! KZ

Maybe it was the woman featured on the summit etiquette thread????? :D

This is the best thread we've had in a long time!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Make them be the ones who are embarrased! I would probably make sure they knew I was there by making a comment like: "Are you going to be long?, cause I can come back in a few minutes" "Are you two together?" "Wow - that's what I call a bushwhack!" "Would you mind taking a summit photo of...

I bet if those shorts were only a 2 you'd "downshift" real quick :D

What were they snorting???? Maybe that's why their eyes were red. :D

Liberty Ridge Route again! This route was the site of the fatality a few weeks ago and the helicopter crash you mentioned. It is where most of the serious accidents happen.

Later is better for me also I'll be away this weekend and in the Santanonis the following weekend.

No bugs again on 5/30 - the cold nights and wind are keeping them at bay.:D

I'd be interested in joining the "caravan", if I can make it. KZ

We just followed the marked trail from uphill leanto to the brook crossing about 100 ft beyind the leanto and started upstream alongside the brook. The herdpath became obvious. This was before the herd path was redone, however, and things may be a little different now.