Adams Via Great Gully

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Great Gully in winter/spring conditions had been on my tick list for a couple of years now, and had a few trips canceled due to weather, avalanche potential, etc.. In fact - Arm, Woody and myself had been trying to do this since last winter. Arm, Woody, Alan, Jenn and me are climbing together in the cascades this summer so we wanted to get some team practice, etc.. and over the last couple of weeks, we wre tossing this around as a potential climb if everything lined up.

Abster (for her mount blanc trip) and Adamiata (who started ice climbing this year and pm'ed me) wanted to try some mountaineering out - so we ended up having 8 people up.

Jenn, Abster, Adamiata, and myself decided to camp off the Short Line on friday night, so we hiked in at night. The moon was so bright we didn't even really need lamps. We shoveled out a tent platform, made some hot drink and then crashed out about midnight to a pretty chilly evening.

Woody, his brother Alan, and his stepson camped about 1/2 mile lower on the Short Line and would meet up with us in the am., Arm met up with us in the am due to work.

The next morning, we all met up not far from the king ravine/short line intersection and made our way up to the base of ravine in some really amazing weather - sunny, warm (but not too warm) and not a hint of wind -looked like it was going to be perfect.

So - we all took a rest at the base of the ravine near the subway - It's now we someone soloing the gully about 3/4 of the way from the top - (more on that later)

Great Gully fills with snow in the winter and turns into a classic gully snow climb - you have 2 options, head straight up the gully and tackle a nice big ice bulge or 2 - or veer to the right to the side of a rock cleaver and head up the steep snow and veer left after about 2 or 3 pitches of snow and get back into the main gully. Our plan was to look at the bulge and make a call after seeing it up close. I was leading one rope and woody was leading the and we discussed that not heading up the ice was the best bet for this trip. We decided the ice was just enough - that a running belay might not be the best option for this trip- esp when you have an "easier" alternative.

Since this was absters first time on this type of stuff (she had done rock before), I was being conservative with the protection - banging pickets or screws in about every 40 or 50 feet to be safe and also to get practice for folks (myself included). Woody's rope was doing less pro (all very comfy on steep snow) so they ran it out a bit more and were moving a bit faster - but we were in no hurry as it was warm, sunny, and just amazing seeing all of King Ravine from in the gully and bluebird skies. Real alpine feel.

The entire gully probably took 6 to 8 pitches of snow to top out. The snow was pefect for climbing - hardpack styrofoam all the way up. (another reason for pickets, as self arrest could have been tough). Didn't really soften at all. Sucky for sking - pefect for climbing! :D Could not have been better.
Its pretty sustained steep snow until the the last couple hundred feet where it gets quite steeper (enough for frontpointing and using axe in dagger position) and the gully widens a bit and its quite exposed as well.

Topped out where there is really miminal snow above the headwall - and then went up adams where the wind really picked up - had a uneventful trip down airline to Chemin des Dames back to the base, packed up camp and then headed down for much deserved beer and food at mr pizza. :D

I knew Doug (cbcbd) and Chris (Percious) were going to be at hikers paradise (they were doing pinnacle gully on sunday) that night so doug came with us to eat and then we found out he walked by our camp at about 4:00am (he knew we were up there) and that was him high in the gully after a 2:30am start and a short bivy in near mossy falls.

in ending - we all tossed down some suds ;) at hikers paradise and were pretty excited about having a perfect day in the hills. :D :cool: :cool: I think eveyone had fun.

I am sure some will post pics here. - I didn't take a camera - others did.
 
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What a great outing this was!! Many thanks to Giggy, Jenn, Adam, Arm, Woody and Alan for giving me tips and encouragement on my first alpine gully climb! It was great to meet up with so many other VFTTer's in Gorham. :D :)
 
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Um, I was eyeing GG last week as we went across the Gulfside. You guys had a great day! :D :D :D
 
Nice Trip. Now, the only thing that I'm concerned about is if you guys wore crampons, stableicers, or did you just bareboot? You didn't mention from your post and I can't tell from the pictures. The reason I'm asking is that next week I plan to do the same root in just my trail runners and I was wondering if I'd be safe. I plan to bring plenty of gatorade.

-Dr. Wu
 
dr_wu002 said:
Nice Trip. Now, the only thing that I'm concerned about is if you guys wore crampons, stableicers, or did you just bareboot? You didn't mention from your post and I can't tell from the pictures. The reason I'm asking is that next week I plan to do the same root in just my trail runners and I was wondering if I'd be safe.
I wouldn't consider doing the route without crampons and an axe. (I did it a number of years ago with more snow on the route.)

There was also an incident where two climbers were avalanched out of the gully (over the ice bulge)--they were injured, had to yell for a while before a hiker on one of the surrounding ridges heard them, and had to be rescued.

BTW, the topo gives a maximum angle of 38 deg, but that is averaged over some sizable distance. (I'm sure it felt like more--it always does...)

Doug
 
DougPaul said:
I wouldn't consider doing the route without crampons and an axe. (I did it a number of years ago with more snow on the route.)

There was also an incident where two climbers were avalanched out of the gully (over the ice bulge)--they were injured, had to yell for a while before a hiker on one of the surrounding ridges heard them, and had to be rescued.

BTW, the topo gives a maximum angle of 38 deg, but that is averaged over some sizable distance. (I'm sure it felt like more--it always does...)

Doug


I would say that is about right Doug - though the final pitch had to be more like 45-50 for a short bit and then it mellowed again. I say that becuase I couldn't french technique there - Though, like you say, it always seems steeper. My guess is there is less snow this year - not sure if that means anything. I recall that accident you mention - which was why I wanted condtions to be just right - hence bailing a few times.
 
Giggy - great TR! Adam, excellent pix! Looks and reads like a great day on the steep! Abster... good practice with a fine group. I'm jealous all over!! Pics 24 and 32 really show the snow condition and others define the slope! Good stuff. I had a note from rdl after being over in the ADKs that the snow was probly the same stuff - but they were out to ski (and didn't)!

WAIT!! Did you let Doug drink??? He's already low on brain cells (note when he hiked?). Burning up brain cells is very dangerous activity for him. :eek:

When's the gang going out to the Cascades?
 
Excellent! Good times meeting up with you guys later in the day for some beers and to discuss green squares and other related mountaineering topics.
When I have some time I'll have to put up the pics I got of you guys from the Airline.
What were the activities on Sunday? After exiting via butt-sliding on Right Gully, percious and I saw Bob and hikeramiga in the bowl - Bob was going for a run.

dr_wu002 said:
Nice Trip. Now, the only thing that I'm concerned about is if you guys wore crampons, stableicers, or did you just bareboot? You didn't mention from your post and I can't tell from the pictures. The reason I'm asking is that next week I plan to do the same root in just my trail runners and I was wondering if I'd be safe. I plan to bring plenty of gatorade.

-Dr. Wu
I'd leave the bowling shoes at home and bring your golf shoes.

And Powerade would be my choice... but hey, it's your funeral.
 
giggy said:
I would say that is about right Doug - though the final pitch had to be more like 45-50 for a short bit and then it mellowed again. I say that becuase I couldn't french technique there - Though, like you say, it always seems steeper. My guess is there is less snow this year - not sure if that means anything. I recall that accident you mention - which was why I wanted condtions to be just right - hence bailing a few times.
I felt that the crossover from the gully on the right into GG (to avoid the ice bulge), and the right side of the topout bowl were the steepest. I also got into front point/dagger mode in those spots because it was faster. Could've reached 40, but maybe not 45-50. It's those times that I wish I had brought a clinometer, but whatever, it was good fun.



bubba said:
I had a note from rdl after being over in the ADKs that the snow was probly the same stuff - but they were out to ski (and didn't)!

WAIT!! Did you let Doug drink??? He's already low on brain cells (note when he hiked?). Burning up brain cells is very dangerous activity for him. :eek:
The snow in King Ravine is there... a soft day and it would be an awesome ski out :)

Drink? Cells? Doug function no beer without.
The pizza place we went to had an O'douls neon sign... thought of you...
 
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Nice meeting up with y'all on Saturday night. Looks/Sounds like you guys had a great day out. I really want to check out that route with a friend of mine next year. The ice bulge looks enticing.

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Is it a bushwhack getting into the bowl?

cheers.
-percious
 
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percious said:
Nice meeting up with y'all on Saturday night. Looks/Sounds like you guys had a great day out. I really want to check out that route with a friend of mine next year. The ice bulge looks enticing.

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Is it a bushwhack getting into the bowl?

cheers.
-percious


hey chris - great to see you again, one of these days we'll have to get together again.

very minimal BW to base, I wouldn't even call it a BW really.
 
possible surreptitious encounter

Mr Giggy & crew,

I believe we might have cross path on the summit of Mt Adams unbeknownst to us. I tried to make some chit chat with a group of 4, two men and two woman. It might have been you and your group, not sure.
 
Great Day in Great Gully

Giggy,

Thanks for posting the trip report and for organizing the trip. I have been wanting to get into King Ravine for quite a while and the conditions have not worked out for one reason or another. We could not have asked for a better day. The snow was perfect neve. Great climbing conditions.

I would say that the final pitch of the gully was about 40 degrees. I also front pointed up that stretch while using my axe in the "piolet traction" fashion (pick in the snow and using the axe shaft for a hand rail).

I'm looking forward to getting back into King Ravine in the future and tackling some of the ice bulges and the other gullys! :D

It was nice to climb with all of you and also to get to meet some new folks. :)

Adamiata, Jen and Arm - Thanks for the pics. My camera wouldn't work!
 
Doug

Better yet...start knocking on tent doors...we could have all done this together. :D
 
Abster said:
Better yet...start knocking on tent doors...we could have all done this together. :D
Uh huh... done WHAT together? ;) :D

Woody48 said:
I'm with Abster. Knock on the tent doors or at least give a yell! :)

Knocking on nylon doors... you guys are funny. I get it, I'll try to stop being anti-social
:rolleyes:
 
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