Bushwhack from Tabletop to Phelps!!

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ebbinghaus

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I had posted a query last week on the Q&A forum asking about the bushwhack from Tabletop #1 over TT#2, TT#3, and TT#4 to Phelps. Apparently no one had done that recently and most thought you would be nuts to try. Not nuts, just prepared and determined.

Here is my trip report from Saturday's hike: October 9, 2004.

Note that I list the "minutes per mile" from one point to another. Those of you who note that it took me 5-hrs to go from TT#1 to Phelps may think I am a bit slow. To calibrate yourselves you should check my time from the Loj parking lot to Marcy Dam and compare it with yours. Also note that my min/mile time coming back from Marcy Dam was bang-on with my time for going to Marcy Dam. This is a tough bushwhack. Do NOT try it unless you really, really enjoyed doing Cliff and MacNaughton, know how to use a compass, have a 7.5" map, GPS, and very good weather.

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04:00 AM Left home in Latham, NY
06:20 Loj Trailhead parked car
06:35 began walking

Warm day (60+) and fairly dry. Sun was rising in the east when I left the parking lot. The sky was streaked with orange clouds. Beautiful. Had to use my headlamp once I got into the trees. Though by the time I was at the junction of the trail to Wright I had turned it off and packed it in my bag.
07:15 Marcy Dam 2.2 miles (18 min/mile)

07:25 at Marcy Dam "sign-in"
07:47 Passed turnoff to Phelps (22 min/mile)

08:15 At trail to TT#1 -- At the intersection of Ski trail; where Van H heads right and UP (31 min/mile)

Trail to Tabletop summit (TT#1) was dry and in good shape. Not much of a "trailless" peak

08:55--Summit of TT#1 Summited after 2-hr 20-min walk in from the parking lot -- seems like pretty good time (47 min/mile from VanH trail to summit)

Was windy at the top. I put on my "armor". Gaiters up to my knees. Knee pads for some sport that I have never played, but were really heavy-duty. A pull-over jacket that was about 20-yrs old (so okay to get torn up). New gloves with leather palms. Clear, wrap-around sunglasses for eye protection. Hat. Collasped my hiking poles and secured them to my daypack as I knew from experience that they would only encumber me once I got into the thick stuff!

09:10 -- I took off from TT#1 by heading down hill from the "Tabletop" summit sign via a well trod, but very short, trail. Trail petered out after about 50-ft. There I took my bearings and headed 74-deg MN -- actually was able to find a faint trail and follow that for a little while.

Climbed down and/or around several cliffs. Nothing of real challenge. At this point the bushwhack was less difficult than Cliff and certainly less difficult than MacNaughton

Going up to TT#2 was more challenging. At one point I found a snapped off "basket" and point to a walking stick. I looked around for more signs, half expecting to find the bones of a hiker. Fortunately I found nothing. Actually this was the last sign of people, trail, or artifact, that I would see until I summitted the shoulder of Phelps hours later.

10:30 Blowdown at or near summit of TT#2. Took GPS reading from there -- Garmin said that the summit was 56 ft north from where I was standing. That estimate was based on the waypoint I had put into Garmin for TT#2 based on my National Geographic TOPO! software -- N 44° 08.613; W073° 54.443.

I wandered around and found a high rock. Climbed on that and declared it to be the top of TT#2. (180 min/mile)

Began following my new compass bearing of 24° MN to TT#3

11:00 -- Top of TT#2 was thicker and harder to plough through than anything up to now. Around 11am I took a break. By then I was most of the way down TT#2 on the down side of a small wall. I could see TT#3 from there and it was bang-on my 24° MN reading.

11:50 -- Pretty close to the top of TT#3. My "armor" had been working fine except for the chink between the arms of my jacket and the beginning of my gloves. That 2 inch part of my body was being whipped by branches and fur tree and at this point was very red and very sore. I took off the leather gloves and put on my OR Gortex overmitts with the long gauntlets. This was a great relief!!

The going at this point was very tough. Most of the problem was due to medium height sprue with thousands of dead branches interlocked at person level. Going a few feet in any direction was difficult and required a combination of skill at finding the least dense "next 3-ft" and shear muscle to plough on thru. I was getting constantly turned around and had to continually look at my compass. Took to trying to locate tall trees along my bearing that were about 50-ft away and trying to hike towards them. Hard to do.

12:02 -- TT#3 (204 min/mile from TT#2) I thought I had passed the high point of TT#3. Though was not sure. Set my compass on the new bearing of 330 MN for TT#4

Bearing from TT#3 to TT#4 is 330° MN

12:30 -- Going downhill was very hard to do. Took a break at 12:30 and realized that there was a shoulder to TT#3 to the north of me. Taking out my topo map I realized that TT#3 had a broad flat summit that went north quite a ways. My bearing of 330 MN assumed that I started at the extreme northern part of the TT3 plateau. Guess I was getting tried. Took a new bearing of due MN and headed on that.

After much work I found myself again on the top of TT#3, but this time further north and west.

13:05 Col between TT#3 and TT#4
13:12 Passed through a blowdown near the top. Checked my GPS (6 satellites). Said I was 311 ft from top. N 44° 09.246 W073° 54.664; GPS also confirmed that my bearing of 330 MN was still correct.

13:20 TT#4 From blowdown to top was easy! Blowdown was ancient and not too bad to climb/crawl through. (120 min/mile)

13:30 -- I had declared victory over TT#4 too soon. Bullied my way through the spruce to the edge of the top. Could see bare rocks along TT#4 and could see that the TT#4 plateau stretched out farther than I had thought. I never did find those bare rocks though I did see them against once I summitted the shoulder of Phelps.

13:45 Took another GPM reading; N 44° 09.380 4142 W073° 54.851. Declared myself half-way between TT#4 and Phelps. At elevation 4142.

14:25 --- Shoulder of Phelps (183 min/mile from TT#4) Tough to get to, but I finally did it. On the ledge on the shoulder of Phelps with a good view of Phelps (were lots of people on top!). Could also see the ledge on TT#4 -- I never did find that. GPS told me that I was 495 ft from Phelps. As the crow flies I suppose.

Climbed down ledge-- easy to do. Found my first herd path since leaving TT#1. Followed this to ledge on Phelps. Easy!!

14:50 Phelps!! (66 min/mile from shoulder)
15:05 left Phelps
15:50 Intersection with Van (47 min/mile)

16:10 Marcy Dam (22 min/mile)

16:50 Back to parking lot (18 min/mile)
 
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JUST missed you. We left Phelps summit around 2:30PM (you arrived at 2:50).

Glad you had the nerve to try it. I'm glad I didn't. Climbed Tabletop first that day and noted the thick spruce on the ridge. Definitely would have needed that armor you spoke of.

Did you keep the GPS tracks of your hike? I'd like a copy of the points if you have them :).
 
I waaanna go too!!

Hey post'r boy! I would love to go. Wanna plan a trip? Anyone else?

PS I know a NICE bushwhack route up Phelps too!
 
Great report. I know what you mean by "dead branches interlocked at person level" Cliff from Flowed Lands had plenty of this, you just have to grit your teeth and go for it. I really want to try this whack. It sounds like a blast.

-percious
 
ice, what is the bushwack route? My friend still has yet to hike a peak that was not either bushwhacked or "trailless" A planned phelps whack sounds like it would hit the spot.

-percious
 
Pelty Brk ski trail

Percious (hey, I was born on 8/29 too!!) - The (illegal) ski trail up Pelty Brk provides a nice "bushwhack" to Phelps. There is no path, but is a wonderful walk through birch glades!!

Are you interested in doing the bushwhack between TT and Phelps also?

Post'r boy! Is there any chance that you could pull off a midweek trek? Are you also interested in an alternative route to/from Phelps also?

Bye for now,
Inge (Ich mochte whackin' gehen auch!!!)
:D :D :D :D
 
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Unfortunately I will have to decline in the short term. I am using up my last alloted overnighter for the year next weekend, hiking DP. This trip will probably be on-tap for next year however, as I still need TT and Phelps. I'll keep you posted. I will probably be doing a Redfield->Skylight trip next year as well if you are interested in that. Thanks for the invite though.

-percious
 
percious said:
This trip will probably be on-tap for next year however

I'm in the same boat, so much to climb so little time. But I am definitely trying this sometime next year.
 
Redfield to Skylight

Percious -

I have climbed from Skylight to Redfield in the summer and it took a bit more than 1.5hrs. I figure this is probably shorter than going via the trail and herdpath. It was thick, but doable.

I have also done this route in the winter, but don't recall how long it took. It was much easier in the winter w/ a consolidated base.

There was also a time when I did the route to visit Moss Pond from Redfield. The pond was lovely with very thick beds of moss on it's banks.

Happy hiking and maybe we can hook up next year,
 
Congrats ebbinghaus, while I was taking a leasure 10 mile hike on the trails in the back-country west and south of heart lake enjoying the weather, you were pounding away at a great route. I told you that was on my list, now I have a road map in your report that I can use when it is my turn.

Ed
 
Not for nothing.....

I will be doing a version of this next spring or summer as part of my continuing quest for the 46B and ADK100.

Someone has been kind enough to share with me a nice Bushwhack route up Phelps (not the Pelky Basin route) and another over to TT that is (or has been described) as less difficult than it sounds like this one is. It will descend off TT in the usual fashion.

Then, the day (which would be a long one) would be finished with a bushwack up TR mountain (formerly known as Unnamed Peak, Indian Falls) which is on the ADK100 list.

I'm sorry but I won't share the route on here (or any other public forum), which I never do and was a condition of me getting it in the first place :), but if you are interested (and serious) in a fun whack, drop me a PM (or state so on here). I'll let you know when I'm doing it. Probably won't be till spring or longer days at least.
 
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You crazy, crazy, #@$$%. Wish I could have been there.:D

Bushwhack up Phelps via Pelkey Basin off the Jeep Road into Marcy Dam, great hike.
 
ebbinghaus said:
The going at this point was very tough. Most of the problem was due to medium height sprue with thousands of dead branches interlocked at person level. Going a few feet in any direction was difficult and required a combination of skill at finding the least dense "next 3-ft" and shear muscle to plough on thru.
Hey Ebbinghaus! I believe I'm the one who said you would have to be nuts! And you know what? I was right! :D Congratulations on your nuttiness. From reading this thread I get the impression there'll be a herd trail in there next year. That's when I'll go.
 
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