Canisters Coords

[Motabobo]

Hello !

I'm wondering if the Summit Canisters coords for bushwalks of the following lists are available. They are often not on the true summit !

• Catskills 3500
• New England 100 Highest
• ADK 46

I'd like to have them as a backup, please

Thanks

 

[Jay H]

I have all of them for the catskills, not online but PM me if you need certain peaks... I did all of them on my first round except for Sherrill cause I simply forgot to break out my GPS when I got to the canister but I GPS'd it when I did it in Dec'05 for my Winter round so I got that one...

I think I have a couple of the ADK ones too but of course, they aren't canister coords, but simply summit sign coords

Jay

 

[BorealChickadee]

None of the Adirondack 46 have canisters anymore but the coordinates for all 46 peaks were published in Adirondac magazine (the publications of the ADK club) a few years back.

 

[Motabobo]

Any ideas for the NE100 ? I bought the papers at the annual meeting (rev. 2002) but there is no coords for canisters !

Thanks

 

[Ashfordite]

I use www.topozone.com. If you click on a point on the map, it will display the coordinates of that point (the map will be refreshed and the coordinates displayed at the top). I use this method to get the summit coordinates. The accuracy has generally been within 100 ft.

Len

 

[bobandgeri]

Mohamed has a spreadsheet posted on his website with the information for the NEHH Waypotings:

We also have trip reports with GPS maps for most of the NEHH bushwhacks on our trip reports web page.

http://home.earthlink.net/~ellozy/xcel/GPS.xls

 

[Mohamed Ellozy]

Mohamed has a spreadsheet posted on his website with the information for the NEHH Waypotings:

http://home.earthlink.net/~ellozy/xcel/GPS.xls

Please note the disclaimer on that page:

Some were recorded on the summit, others come from various cartographic resources. I have not checked them and make no claim that they are correct. One poster on the feedback BB claims that he has found an error.

 

[dr_wu002]

Isn't part of the fun just finding the canister yerself??

-Dr. Wu

 

[Motabobo]

Isn't part of the fun just finding the canister yerself??
-Dr. Wu

IMHO, the fun is getting to the top, not necessarily finding a specific point like a summit canister (which is often not the true summit anyway). It is a technicality I wouldn't even bother with if it weren't required by the club !

I never signed a register before my first Catskill bushwalk even if I reached them "by accident", part of my "leave no trace" ethic I guess

 

[dms]

Isn't part of the fun just finding the canister yerself??

-Dr. Wu

Sure is! I'm afraid the map and compass is going the way of the buggy whip! Following someone else's GPS waypoints to the summit doesn't sound like much fun, or much of a challenge, to me.

 

[dr_wu002]

IMHO, the fun is getting to the top, not necessarily finding a specific point like a summit canister (which is often not the true summit anyway). It is a technicality I wouldn't even bother with if it weren't required by the club !

I never signed a register before my first Catskill bushwalk even if I reached them "by accident", part of my "leave no trace" ethic I guess

I guess it's a matter of opinion. To me, even if the canister is placed somewhere strange it's still fun hunting it down. If I don't find it, I don't care either. I guess if you need to find it for a club, then you gotta...

-Dr. Wu

 

[Jay H]

Ummm, I think Jean wants it as backup. Heck, that's how I got all the ones I got in the catskills, I got to the canister, whipped out my GPS, then got a coordinate. There are aplenty of joys being out there in 'dar woods, summits/canisters included! Plus, finding the canister is fun, it's like reading the trail registers on the AT, you can see the last time Hermit has been there for his Catskills grid.

Jay

 

[dr_wu002]

Gps

Ummm, I think Jean wants it as backup. Heck, that's how I got all the ones I got in the catskills, I got to the canister, whipped out my GPS, then got a coordinate. There are aplenty of joys being out there in 'dar woods, summits/canisters included! Plus, finding the canister is fun, it's like reading the trail registers on the AT, you can see the last time Hermit has been there for his Catskills grid.

Jay

Reading the canister is fun -- I'm just not going to use a GPS to tell me how to find it. I have one (same one you have, Jay) with me, know how to use it, but this just takes the fun out of it for me -- whether or not I find the canister. Matter of opinion, I guess.

-Dr. Wu

 

[spencer]

Don't worry dms - I'm just a youngin' (ask Sherpa) and I only use a map and compass.


I think of technology as something that affords me more personal time to experience the world without technology.

spencer

 

[Nessmuk]

Don't worry dms - I'm just a youngin' (ask Sherpa) and I only use a map and compass.


I think of technology as something that affords me more personal time to experience the world without technology.

spencer

Amen. Good down earth philosophy too often forgotten by merchants of gadgetry.

 

[dr_wu002]

Amen. Good down earth philosophy too often forgotten by merchants of gadgetry.

I guess it's a matter of opinion. For me, part of the fun last weekend on Garfield Ridge Peak East 3590' was hunting around the summit (probably 10-15 minutes) looking for the canister. Eventually I gave up but then suspected a tree that when I gave it a whack, it showed me the canister. Then I realized the canister was frozen solid -- no chance of gettin' that thing open unless I peed on it (which I wasn't going to do). I like to read the register so I'll just have to go back in the Spring, read it and sign it retroactively.

For me it's part of the fun... and if I had a machine say, go there, that would lessen it a little! But it's just an opinion, I guess. We could get into an ethical debate about posting coordinates on the web but I won't do that. Spencer probably will.

-Dr. Wu

 

[spencer]

ethical debate about posting coordinates on the web but I won't do that. Spencer probably will

nope, I've said my peace...

spencer

 

[Jay H]

We could get into an ethical debate about posting coordinates on the web

Debating on the internet??? Nahhh, never happen

Jay

 

[Double Bow]

I will! Grrrrr!!!! People who follow a GPS route are cheaters! Winners never cheat and cheaters never win!!!

I too am a whippersnapper (though older than Spencer) and I subscribe to "map and compass" philosophy. As I always say "It's ultralight and retro-cool!"


That said, do whatever you want. Hike yer own hike. Do yer own thang. All that's important is that yer gettin' out there havin' a good time and not doin' anything to ruin anyone else's good time! Don't really matter how yer doin' it.

Git 'er done!!!

 

[Jay H]

You folks are blowing things way out of proportion! The OP asked for coordinates for backup, I guess if you start bushwacking up Slide Mountain instead of Lone (which I've heard of a story third-hand before of a 3500 club hike in the catskills).... I'm assuming that "backup" means if the world goes to hell and you are absolutely having to get there then and now, to whip out the GPS and use that. I don't know, that's why I got coordinates for the canisters myself, and it's also interesting to see how far off the canister is from the summit as found on Terrain Navigator or topozone, etc. etc.

Winners never cheat and cheaters never win!!!

I guess you haven't followed professional cycling recently!!!

Jay