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I was up in the Adirondacks last weekend and I love taking pictures. I just have a cheap point and shoot digital camera. I just put the setting on automatic and it does the rest. I have come to terms that I will probably never be as good as most of you but I just enjoy getting out and taking some pictures of my trips ;)

So here is a SHOT of a bridge that I would like to share. I just love the demension the picture gave and the quality is not half bad either :D

Thanks,
Adam
 
This is a photo of the sort that benefits greatly from including a human figure in the frame.

G.
 
Grumpy said:
This is a photo of the sort that benefits greatly from including a human figure in the frame.
I kind of like it without! :)

Can you tell me why you prefer it that way? Is it to give it a sense of scale? I guess I know which bridge it is, and how big it is already, maybe that's the difference?
 
Grumpy said:
This is a photo of the sort that benefits greatly from including a human figure in the frame.
I agree. The photo is too plainly geometric without an object to focus on. The image is nice, but there's no story.
 
David Metsky said:
I agree. The photo is too plainly geometric without an object to focus on. The image is nice, but there's no story.
Not to belabor this too much, but I think the photo says 'Cross me!' :D

There does not appear to be a trail on the other side, leading to a sense of mystery or adventure.

Also, the trail maintainer in me sees a bridge in very good shape! :)
 
This is a classic image of symmetry. I like it, although I too would prefer a person on the bridge.

Several times while attending photo workshops I have seen someone purposely bring in two photos of the same scene with and without a human. Often they will use a tripod to ensure that the framing is identical. Both images are well executed without flaws that would disqualify either image. The workshop participants are then asked which they prefer. In all cases that I have observed the majority prefers the image with the human. However, there are always some, including some experienced photographers, who prefer the photo without the human -- so that is also a valid preference.

This photo is a good example of an image taken either on an overcast day or at a time of day when the entire scene is in open shade. That is fairly essential for this type of scene. Strong sunlight would create dark shadows and/or overexposed highlights. You also did a good job hand holding the image which can be a challenge in lower levels of lighting. Good work, Adam.
 
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Thanks for the tips guys! Next time I will have a person in the photo and try that. This bridge is on the Lake Road on the Ausable Club property. If I remember correctly it is the 2nd bridge on the right as your walking in.

Mark you are right.....the clouds were rolling in and out all day. One minute it was overcast and the next minute the sun was shining brightly. Just take a look at the other photos in the album and look at Rainbow Falls. I had a hard time getting a good photo with the sun shining in the gorge.
 
Tom Rankin said:
I kind of like it without! :)

Can you tell me why you prefer it that way? Is it to give it a sense of scale? I guess I know which bridge it is, and how big it is already, maybe that's the difference?

Well, Tom, as a matter of fact I can tell you exactly why I prefer a photo like this one to include a human figure in the scene. It is the photojournalist in me.

One of my earliest mentors in the field was fond of saying, the difference between a photograph and picture is that the photo merely records the scene while a picture tells us a story. As a rule, I find that inanimate objects alone usually don't tell much of a story. Something needs to be "happening" in order for there to be much in the way of narrative. That's where the people come in.

The other old rule that was drummed into my pedestrian head a long time ago is that people generally like to read about and look at people. It's the old, "names and faces make news," dogma. So human figures in a photo tend to provide a natural point of focus or attraction for the viewer.

The business about providing sense of scale also is a valid reason for including people in pictures, although that probably is not the prime reason for wanting them in the shot of the bridge.

I can respect your followup comments about sense of mystery. But my preference usually is for pictures that illuminate rather than mystify.

And, of course I also read from your followup post that the photo does tell a story to you as a trail maintainer. I can buy that as far as it goes, but for myself, just crave something more. :)

Mine is not the only valid outlook on this stuff, by any means. But it sure works for me -- it helps me quickly select pictures that I really want to look at, especially more than once.

G.
 
Interesting comments grumpy -

I'm with Tom - this seems to be inviting, but I do see that a person on the other end might add something. Makes it hard if you're solo (I know Adam wasn't, but what if?) BTW Adam - I like the shot!

I tried a perspective shot like this once in a stand of red pines, and threw my pack in for a splash of color and scale...something like this might have added to Adam's shot too.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/winterwarlock/2092553363/in/set-72157603399388375/
 
WinterWarlock said:
Interesting comments grumpy -

I'm with Tom - this seems to be inviting, but I do see that a person on the other end might add something. Makes it hard if you're solo (I know Adam wasn't, but what if?) BTW Adam - I like the shot! ...

It's probably worth mentioning that despite my criticism, I don't especially dislike this particular picture. It just isn't one I'd spend a lot of time on at first viewing, and wouldn't be likely to return to, later -- for reasons already iterated.

Pictures like the bridge shot are the bane of the solo hiker!

BTW, when I wrote, "Something needs to be 'happening' in order for there to be much in the way of narrative. That's where the people come in." I really didn't intend to exclude some of the dynamite weather-sky-water-light-animal photos we've seen shared in this forum. There, the "animate" thing is Nature, in action.

The core idea is that something has to stir a visceral reaction to get us engaged for the closer look in the first place. That can be very hard to do with inanimate subjects. Once really engaged, we can intellectualize about the photo until the cows come home, and find some meaning in it so it becomes a picture with a story to tell and a story told.

G.
 
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