Poor Doggies

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Mike P.

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That's a tough hike with a lot of rocks for a dog & his feet, tough on people too

Do dogs like bleeding feet? I know somehow I feel good after abusing myself for a couple of days but I thought dogs were smarter than that. Problem I guess is they are more loyal than smart.
 
Oops, this should have been a rply to the Shadowcats thread on the dog on Algonquin
 
doggies feet

i've never had a dog & personally don't mind seeing them on the trail. i prefer critters over people in most cases anyway. but i do often wonder how the dogs handle some of the hikes & conditions i've seen them in. animals, by nature do not complain when their feet hurt. the dogs that worked thru the debris from 9/11 had their feet shredded but they never stopped. they will just keep going long after damage is done. so i feel we humans have to know when enough is enough for them. i've seen folks with their dogs on horribly rocky stuff & cold weather, with no protection. i'm not judging, just curious because i do care about animals & often wonder in just because the dog is still moving along their owners think it's ok or do they actuall ck to see if their paws are ok etc ?
 
It takes some intelligence on the owners part as to what they put their dogs through. My dog Chica really couldn't care less about summiting anything; she would rather find a muddy swamp to sniff, a river to swim in or a grove of trees filled with squirrels to chase. She wants to sniff, run, roll and chase more than she wants to bag a 4000 footer. I have brought her up a few times above treeline, but have always paid attention to what was going on with her paws along the way. I try to make sure that our trips are mostly along wooded trails. And if I am not sure about what is available for open & fresh water in the area I always carry extra liter or 2 for her.

I remember once being on top of Whiteface when this family group showed up with an ancient golden retriever; his muzzle was 75% white. This dog made it up, but his hips were in pain, he was having trouble walking and was facing 5 miles of trail to return. His owners were asking people on the top what the quickest way down was and if there was anywhere they get help. Duh! I am not sure what the outcome was as I left, but I am sure it was a long, slow hike down. Those people should have had more smarts than bringing an old dog way up there.

As you say dogs are loyal, they will follow their humans anywhere. As such, when we hike with our canine friends, we humans have a responsibility to put their best interests in front of our own personal desires.
 
Whether the dog will complain depends on the injury, the dog, and the situation. It's the handler's responsibility to monitor the dog to prevent harm, if at all possible. Unfortunately, not all dog owners/handlers practice this.

If I'm hiking on rocky or icy terrain, I make frequent stops to check paws. This includes spreading toes to remove things that may have lodged between pads, and checking that nails have not worn down to expose the quick. I also bring, but have never needed, booties. If my dog's pads were not thick & tough enough to handle a rocky hike, then I would not bring them to a rocky area. A good ice crust or granular snow can sand their pads off, particularly around the edges.

I'm not surprised by Bobmak's experience on Whiteface. I've seen similar; and worse, a dog that collapsed from heat exhaustion and died soon afterwards. The dog was loyally following his ignorant, thoughtless owners at the cost of his life. Some people don't seem to even bother to look at their dogs. I've pointed out things like bleeding wounds, porcupine quills, bloody tracks, etc., to owners that somehow failed to notice these things. Never mind checking for dehydration, overheating, frostnip, and things that don't involve actual holes in the dog. I'll quit now before I go into too much of a rant.
 
My dog cries if I'm forced to leave her at home. Right now she's laid up after being hit by a car, in turn blowing out her knee. I think it will have to be replaced.

My dog has been hurt on the trail many times before, from broken nails to porpupine wrestling, and she still begs for more.
 
>>My dog cries if I'm forced to leave her at home.<<

maybe she figures you won't be home in time to feed her? my dog is always looking to go somewhere too, but i wouldnt take her up on a rocky trail with me, if something happens to her i wouldn't want to carry her for 7-10 miles.
 
banging my head against the wall...

I love dogs, and miss my old Lab very much, but I would not have imposed him on other hikers in a situation such as this. Nor would I have jeopardized his safety just for my own enjoyment on a mountain trail. Dogs on trails aren't the big problem... it's the people that take them there, and fail to control them.

This is one of those topics that never change. It's like trying to convert somebody's religious or political beliefs... ain't gonna happen. Might as well delete this whole thread.
 
>>and miss my old Lab very much, but I would not have imposed him on other hikers in a situation such as this. Nor would I have jeopardized his safety just for my own enjoyment on a mountain trail.<<

i'm sure my lab would rather be swimming than hiking - if i walk 20 miles, she would be walking 40 with all the zig zagging to sniff everything along the way (and she has shorter legs and is barefoot) - these same people bragging about how much thier dog enjoys hiking wouldn't take thier small kids on a long hike barefoot.
 
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these same people bragging about how much thier dog enjoys hiking wouldn't take thier small kids on a long hike barefoot.

You know something, I wouldn't be too sure of that! I have some stories I could share as well about some very irresponsible parents bringing children places they didn't belong, but that would be posting off topic. Irresponsible & thoughtless people tend to be just that, no matter what the setting.
 
Re: banging my head against the wall...

Originally posted by AlG
This is one of those topics that never change. It's like trying to convert somebody's religious or political beliefs... ain't gonna happen. Might as well delete this whole thread. [/B]


I agree wholeheartedly.
People will continue to do stupid things with their children and their pets no matter how much education is out there. One fella allowed his 7 year old kid to stand way on the edge of the upper boulders near Thunder Hole at Acadia National Park. One slip of the foot is all it would have taken and the kid would be no more. How many kids and pets are locked in hot cars or allowed to hike into danger.
You just can't talk to people who do things like this. They don't want to hear it and they can get downright hostile not matter how polite you try to be.
Maddy
 
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