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I'm so glad this came up... I grew up in Conway and one of my pet peeves is hearing people say Kan ca "mang" us.
I actually have an old article that my Grandmother clipped out of the paper years ago, even back then in Conway it bothered the locals that it was pronounced wrong! It mentions the people coming up from "MA"!
I have passed it on to many of hikers. I tell them just say "Kanc" and that works!
 
QUOTE Mad Townie That's easy, Grouseking. It's Lake You-fish-on-your-side-I-fish-on-my-side-and-nobody-fishes-in-the-middle! :D


On the subject of long names try this Welsh town:

Llanfairpwllgwyngyll or Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

wikipedia (disclaimer, not reliable) states Lake Webster's Indian name means-
Englishmen at Manchaug at the Fishing Place at the Boundary

grouseking and mad townie may be correct on the nomenclature of this lake.


ridgewalker
 
nartreb said:
>that is not what it's named for.

The mineral is named for the North African region. Documentary evidence

Doesn't mean miners ever pronounced it correctly, of course.
Good call. The road has been pronounced the non-standard way here for a long, long time, as was the mineral (at least locally). I wonder how it started?
 
David Metsky said:
Good call. The road has been pronounced the non-standard way here for a long, long time, as was the mineral (at least locally). I wonder how it started?


To quote Place Names of the White Mountains Tripoli Rd. was based on logging grade on the western side this road through Thorton Notch was built by USFS to connect Waterville Valley to Woodstock, and was completed in 1934.

The name comes from the Woodstock end having been open for the Tripoli Mill in Thorton. Tripoli is a diatomiceous mineral having numerous industrial uses, was dredged from East Pond.

---hope this helps out!

Ridgewalker
 
>I wonder how it started?

Just a guess, but the mineral tripoli is also called "tripolite", which English-speakers pronounce to rhyme with "light". Easy to see how confusion could result.
 
SteveHiker said:
Athens (Ay-thins)
Curious, Are you referring to the one in NY or VT? Many of the old timers in Athens, NY (on the Hudson River just north of the village of Catskill) pronounce it that way also. However, the new comers are using the more conventional pronunciation, and they are now in the majority.

Jay H said:
Willowemoc
Cairo (like the city in Egypt or "Caaaaaayyyyro")
Catskills or Kaatskills
Yeah, there is something about foreign cities in NY. We also have Milan (MY-lan) and Greenwich (GREEN-which). At least they can't mess with Rome and Verona. Then there is Amsterdam. The local high schoolers started to call it Am-ster-DAM (with an urban lingo on the DAM).

For Willowemoc, I have usually heard Wil-low-e-moc, just like it is spelled. Catskill is just as it looks. There is a regional magazine Kaatskill Life, but pronounced the same. The more poetic Kaaterskill is usually pronounced as in Welcome back Kotter, but some say cat-er-skill. There is a Cauterskill Road near the Kaaterskill Creek, also pronounced Kotter.

Binghamton (first two syllables rhyme with gingham).

Don't even ask about Coxsackie.

The Shawangunks (pronounced SHONG-gum) have a Guyot Hill. Many speak it en français, but some locals use the Americanized GUY-ot. The nearby Bonticou Crag is often spoken in faux French (bonn-teh-keau) though the origin is from the Dutch name of a nearby valley stream, Bontekous Kill (meaning spotted cow stream). Some locals pronounce Bonticou (bonn-teh-Q).

My favorite from Massachusetts is Peabody (pee-buh-dee)

Ridgewalker said:
On the subject of long names try this Welsh town:

Llanfairpwllgwyngyll or Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Somewhere in my files I have a 35mm slide of the train station sign in that town. It required a 17mm lens IIRC. I asked one of the locals how it was pronounced. He told me, but alas it was not in a human tongue. There is a wave file link on wikipedia, along with a photo of the train station sign, and the meaning: "St Mary's church in the hollow of the white hazel near to the rapid whirlpool and the church of St Tysilio of the red cave".
 
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Mark Schaefer said:
Curious, Are you referring to the one in NY or VT? Many of the old timers in Athens, NY (on the Hudson River just north of the village of Catskill) pronounce it that way also. However, the new comers are using the more conventional pronunciation, and they are now in the majority.

all the examples I had are from VT.
 
I have to bring some NJ names in as well
Wanaque
Pequannock
Musconetcong
Frelinghuysen
Ho-Ho-Kus
One of my faverite names is Wala Wala Washington
Everyone forgot Appalachain. There is the northern way and the southern way. Which is correct?
 
Tripol (I) or Tripol (E)?

That is the question...and I have my answer. ;)

In the early 1900's, a rare and valuable variety of diatomaceous earth was found at the bottom of a pond in Livermore, N.H. Shortly afterwards mining operations began and three grades of tripolite, "A", "AA", and "AAA" were being dredged up from the bottom of East Pond. Note: Don't confuse tripolite with the mineral "tripoli".

I'd like to point out that both the mineral "tripoli' and the diatomaceous earth "tripolite" get their names from the city where they were previously discovered...Tripoli, Libya. :rolleyes:

Diatomite is also known as “kieselgur” (a German name
compounded from the words for flint and earthy sediment in
water) and as tripolite after a diatomite occurrence near Tripoli,
Libya. Tripolite is used in some U.S. Government trade
documents as a short term for a longer description of siliceous
fossil meals and similar siliceous earths that is used more
generally in the various tariff codes which cover diatomite. An
impure (up to 30% clay) Danish variety is called moler.(a German name
Source Lower-left, page 1

So...do you think Tripoli Road is named after a shortened version of tripolite. Why would they bother just dropping two letters off the word.....Just perhaps, it's named after the city where tripolite got it's name from. Keep in mind that back in the early 1900's Livermore and the surrounding area was a bit rural to say the least. I doubt many of the miners, loggers, and other people in the area had high school educations, and the few that had heard of Tripoli, Libya probably didn't know how to spell it. Maybe they saw the word ending with an "i" and not knowing any better pronounced it Tripol-eye.

Still don't know the answer, here's one more piece to the puzzle.

The company that was mining the diatomaceous earth was called The Livermore Tripoli Company. and it was founded by Charles Henry, the youngest son of James E. Henry. By this time Charles Henry and his two brothers were millionaire railroad tycoons. Now think about how railroad men name their railroads, ex: Boston & Maine, Burlington Northern, Texas-New Mexico. (Locations, get it.) Do you really think Charles Henry dropped a couple of letters off of tripolite to get the name of his company and the road that led to it, or did he name it after the two places where tripolite, a rare and valuable commodity was known to come from.

I called it Tripol-I up until today, but now I'm a Tripol-EEE believer. :D

FWIW: I know that some websites as well as the USFS claim it's pronounced Tripol-eye. I wonder if any of them can produce some documentation or other evidence other than "we say so" to support their claim.
 
KayakDan said:
That's "Berrica" to the locals,right next to "Chemsfd" and "Tooksbry"

And of course there's "Reykjavik"

Reykjavik is easy (RAKE-yah-vick). it's some of the other names/words in Iceland that are tough! Try ordering a beer! ;) (Actually, it's not that difficult. 99.9 percent of Icelanders speak English) :D

Here's another one:
Raynham (Mass.)

Most of us in our office were calling it RAIN-um for the longest time -- until we hired a woman who grew up in that town and she set us straight. It's RAIN-Ham

go figure.
 
KayakDan said:
That's "Berrica" to the locals,right next to "Chemsfd" and "Tooksbry"

I grew up in Chemsfed and most of my friends pronounced Billerica as Bell-Rika. I still haven't figured out how it's supposed to be pronounced. Maybe I'll ask some locals as I'm heading there today.
 
I'm amused at the way people pronounce Montpelier. A couple years ago, I was cycling through Vermont and my wife was driving. We were to meet in Montpelier. She (a quebcoise) had to practice how to pronounce it in case she had to ask directions.

Oh... What's that creek in NY that the NOrthway crosses about a dozen or so miles north of Albany.. The one whose name is so long that you don'T have time to read it as you drive by.
 
alpinista said:
Most of us in our office were calling it RAIN-um for the longest time -- until we hired a woman who grew up in that town and she set us straight. It's RAIN-Ham
And to make matters worse, it's not Peter-zum or Peters-ham, but rather Peter-sham. Go figure some more! :rolleyes:

Anyway, you can forget all that Massachusetts stuff, Alpinista--you're going to have to learn Brooklynese! :D
 
OK, anyone want to take a shot at the correct pronunciation of this one?

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Kevin Rooney said:
OK, anyone want to take a shot at the correct pronunciation of this one?
Guzenheit!

This thread reminds me of a gentleman the missus and I met on the AT in Maine a number of years ago. (We were hiking from Rangley to CV Road.) He had the wrong names for every single place. He had a lot of experience on the Trail, but he had all the names wrong and all with slight changes. Orbiton Stream was Orbitron Creek. Spaulding Mt. was Spaulder Mt. Sugarloaf was Sugarsloaf. Funny stuff like that, but it was every single place. At first it was a little annoying b/c I'm a sticker for those sort of things, but it was so frequent it was really funny. (Maybe you had to be there. We also ran out of TP on this trip. Luckily, we met another couple that was carrying 4 rolls for a 3 day hike, but that's another story.)
 
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