Two "Lost" Trails Found

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evilhanz said:
convinces the unprepared to turn back when it gets too steep or rough. Once on the descent, most people won't want to turn back uphill if they lose the route or find the going is too tough and may continue into greater danger.
This is exactly what I said! The unsuspecting person will descend to treeline and then get hopelessly lost in the Great Gulf when they lose the trail!

I read and enjoy Backpacker sometimes. Hell, I think I even get a subscription. However, screw 'em for stuff like this. Maybe I'm harsh but nobody ever accused me of being pleasant.

-Dr. Wu
 
NH_Mtn_Hiker said:
I think you're pleasant Dr. Wu.......









.....in a bitter, evil, wicked, immoral, sadistic sort of way. :p :D :D
I know, and I've even hiked with you; thanks. Let's go do that trail from treeline sometime.

-Dr. Wu
 
evilhanz said:
There was a time when the FS closed many slide trails over erosion concerns. Adams Slide was one of them.
Yes, it is very hard to maintain a slide trail to the standard of other trails, pieces just keep sliding away :) You just have to accept that it will be sort of a permanent scramble, and hope that (particularly in winter) unprepared people don't try to use them.

I don't know what effect the guideline of "not too many trails in Wilderness" had on this closing, another trail in the Great Gulf vanished shortly thereafter.

I find it strange that Backpacker would recommend *descending* an abandoned slide trail, especially one this steep and rough.
I agree fully with your comments on this matter.

I have climbed N OJI slide in the rain and cut my hand (that trail open although Baxter/Brother closed) and Adams Slide just after it was closed. My feeling is that there are nicer trails nearby than either and won't argue with the maintainers preferring to devote their attention elsewhere.
 
I did the south slide on OJI last June, and my memory is that the North Slide Trail sign is up, but with a warning that the trail is not maintained and not recommended in wet conditions, nor for descent. The Brother slide portion of the Marston was closed because of a death, a man fell on descent. Supposedly he was sliding down on a boat cushion and not surprisingly lost control. It is very steep, and if you really want to it can be followed even now.
 
Lost Trail or Traintrack Visible From Zeacliff?

Interesting that this should come up right now. I was browsing thru old .jpg's taken from Zeacliff. I noticed that under a slide on the cliff opposite Zeacliff, there's a man-made horizontal line.

Is this an old traintrack? It just looks too straight to be a trail.
 
lx93 said:
Interesting that this should come up right now. I was browsing thru old .jpg's taken from Zeacliff. I noticed that under a slide on the cliff opposite Zeacliff, there's a man-made horizontal line.

Is this an old traintrack? It just looks too straight to be a trail.


Zeacliff did have a train track when J.E. Henry owned the area.
 
lx93 said:
Interesting that this should come up right now. I was browsing thru old .jpg's taken from Zeacliff. I noticed that under a slide on the cliff opposite Zeacliff, there's a man-made horizontal line.

Is this an old traintrack? It just looks too straight to be a trail.
It's the Ethan Pond Trail!! It is an old RR grade and a great trail to walk. Take it from Zealand Hut and walk over to Thoreau Falls for a nice view to Mt. Bond.

-Dr. Wu
 
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