Yeah, I set up a separate thread since my Winter thread got kind of convoluted... It's entitles "sewards on 12/27-12/28. We've got a full room at a motel in Tupper Lake on the 26th before we leave. Some need all 4, I just need the 3, so I may dayhike it but there are some folks who may backpack in and stay at the leanto at ward brook..