Abe/Ellen and Camel's Hump

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Tom Rankin

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Abe and Ellen was Saturday, we did a thru hike from the Batell trail to the Jerusalem trail. Both trailheads offered easy access. It's about 11 miles from car to car, and about 3200' of elevation gain. Starting up to Abe we had micro spikes on as the trail was almost frozen solid. Eventually we put on showshoes, partly because of the increasing snow depth and partly to help manage the increasingly common and increasingly deeper post holes. :mad: The summit was barely windy, and the feared open rock sections were still snow covered, so no crampons were needed. After that, we began the long trek over to Ellen, passing a host of lesser peaks, such as Little Abe, Lincoln, etc. The trail was not exactly pounded down, but it only had a few inches of snow in most places. We did hit a few windy spots, but no big deal. As we neared Ellen, we encountered a few skiers, who helped smooth out the trail. At Ellen, we got a tip from a very friendly skier on how to get back on the LT. We quickly found it, but soon ended up on a ski slope that we had not taken during the summer. We ducked back into the woods after a while, on what might have been the LT. Eventually we saw a faint track heading in from the left, and a few white blazes. The white blazes are very scarce on the ridge line and even worse after Ellen. The worst part was about 20 minutes from the summit, where we lost the trail for quite a while in a partially open glade that had been heavily skied. But we persevered and found the Jerusalem trail eventually. It was well blazed, and turns into an ATV track after a while. The ATV users are working on what was by far the largest Maple Syrup operation I had ever seen! :eek: It must have gone on for a mile! Soon after that, we were back at the car. We celebrated with a trip to a new Brewpub in the Burlington area, Fiddlehead.

Sunday we drove to the Burroughs trail and hiked up Camel's Hump. I wore microspikes all day, and Laurie wore snowshoes part of the way. Either way would work fine. The trail was pounded down but icy, so bring some kind of traction. It was above freezing the whole time, but it snowed off and on several times. Once it came down like styrofoam pellets. The first group we met coming down told us they could 'almost stand up at the top'! :eek: But we kept going and the 2nd group told us it was 'not too bad'. So soon after the junction we layered up and headed to the top. It was foggy, but the wind was easy to manage. All in all a pretty easy, fast hike, less than 4 hours round trip.

This makes 107 of the W115! :)
 
This has to have been last weekend - I was at Coolidge Range yesterday and it was cold and WINDY. Very pretty, but quite tough. Congrats on your treks - you're almost there!
Nope it was 1/19 and 1/20. The phrase 'variable winds' sums it up!
 
Above freezing the whole time Sunday on the Hump? Really? That threw me off. Sunday was supposed to be colder than Sat, and Sat was above freezing near Killington, in my experience, only at 1000' on Rt. 100 heading up from CT at noon. Not meaning to be contrary, but I don't see above 32 F anywhere on trails to Camel's Hump Sunday, much less up high, though I did hear it was intermittently sunny in places yesterday, so maybe I'm mistaken. :confused:
 
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Above freezing the whole time Sunday on the Hump? Really? That threw me off. Sunday was supposed to be colder than Sat, and Sat was above freezing near Killington, in my experience, only at 1000' on Rt. 100 heading up from CT at noon. Not meaning to be contrary, but I don't see above 32 F anywhere on trails to Camel's Hump Sunday, much less up high, though I did hear it was intermittently sunny in places yesterday, so maybe I'm mistaken. :confused:
Well, I did not have a thermometer, but it was 39F to start at the bottom, and when we finished it was about 45F. Judging from the average rate of temperature decrease as you ascend, it was close to freezing at the top.
 
Man, I would've signed up for that. What was the time frame? I know someone who tried Ellen and Abe yesterday, started at 8:30, and turned back due to high wind, snow and cold - they must've started out earlier than you. They did note that the rest of the day, in the valley, was a melange of weather, with bluebird sky, windy snow squalls and swirling winds alrernating. Sounds like you won the weather lottery. I got about freezing at Sherburne Pass Sat 12:30 with significant winds, progressively colder but fine with occasional winds ascending, starting to get scarily cold and windy, and staying there at the 3400-3500 level. I declared victory at 3500' having gotten to my highest level in the winter, after an unpleasant, level, sidehill 0.3 posthole-fest from the ski-trail section to Pico Camp and made a quick trip down to dinner at the Inn.

Anyhow, glad you had a good outing and that the weather gods were kind to you. I enjoyed tromping high in the snow and expect to do more of it. :)
 
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We started a little after 8 and were done just before Noon. What trail did your friends take, and when did they start? The first 2 groups that started from the West definitely made the summit, as did our group, and almost certainly the next 2 groups, as they were only 100' vertical from the top when we saw them.

We met quite a few people, mostly on our descent. Some of them looked less prepared than others, to say the least!
 
Man, I would've signed up for that. What was the time frame? I know someone who tried Ellen and Abe yesterday, started at 8:30, and turned back due to high wind, snow and cold - they must've started out earlier than you. They did note that the rest of the day, in the valley, was a melange of weather, with bluebird sky, windy snow squalls and swirling winds alrernating. Sounds like you won the weather lottery. I got about freezing at Sherburne Pass Sat 12:30 with significant winds, progressively colder but fine with occasional winds ascending, starting to get scarily cold and windy, and staying there at the 3400-3500 level. I declared victory at 3500' having gotten to my highest level in the winter, after an unpleasant, level, sidehill 0.3 posthole-fest from the ski-trail section to Pico Camp and made a quick trip down to dinner at the Inn.

Anyhow, glad you had a good outing and that the weather gods were kind to you. I enjoyed tromping high in the snow and expect to do more of it. :)


Two groups (Jay H, procook131 and I) and a couple from Montreal did Abe/Ellen yesterday (1/20). We started at 8:00 from Battell. Yes, it was windy with occasional snow squalls, but we never considered turning around because of it. Temperature along the summit ridge was about 20 F, while it was above/around freezing at the two trailheads and warmer down in Bristol.
 
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