Cape Wind article

[brianW]

Interesting article on Cape Wind.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/20/cape.cod.wind.farm/index.html?hpt=C2

 

[grouseking]

I don't have much to say except....

Classic "NIMBY"......

grouseking

 

[Little Rickie]

With all due respect to the Native Americans but I think the ancestors would be in favor of anything that prevents the desecration of the land that coal mining and oil wells do. Harnessing the wind just seems much more natural and harmonious to me.

I'd rather see more windmills than more of what we do now. They don't look that bad.

 

[Stash]

I don't have much to say except....

Classic "NIMBY"......

grouseking

I read somewhere that there's a new disability - NIMBYS (Not In My Back Yard Syndrome) but they can't build the factory for the drug they found to combat it because the neighbors don't want a drug plant in the area because there would be too much traffic.

 

[Bob]

Let's put a casino there instead-

 

[Little Rickie]

NIMBYS (Not In My Back Yard Syndrome)

Pretty shallow if you ask me or should I say petty.

 

[brianW]

feds approve the proposal

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/28/cape.cod.wind.farm/index.html?hpt=T2

 

[Stash]

I like it. Go ahead and put a few in Casco Bay. I won't complain.

 

[Bigfoot]

I was watching network news last night and there were three stories about energy. They complained about the danger, safety, and environmental impact of coal, oil, and wind. I was P^%$**D. There I sat with a hot meal out of my oven, a glass of water from my well (pump), watching TV. Of course there are issues with everything we do, but we consume sooooo much we do need some sort of energy source. Time for a poll....Would you rather have some wind (no hurricane here), oil, or coal smoke wash up on the beach?

Chances are most Americans do not really want to talk about reduction. Remember the guy in favor of saving the environment that used $12,000. worth of electicity each month in his home. Hmmm what is his name?

My rant for the day is quiet for now.

 

[Craig]

The cape wind project is being built on public land (or in public waters, whichever you prefer).

Of course the larger issue here is the use of public lands for sustainable or renewable energy sources. This would include national parks, national forests, BLM land etc.

This is one of the reasons why this discussion is so important.

But can’t we say that Gifford Pinchot’s philosophy of conversation holds true for this generations challenges?

“Conservation is the foresighted utilization, preservation and/or renewal of forests, waters, lands and minerals, for the greatest good of the greatest number for the longest time.”

Or

Is Theodor Roosevelt’s philosophy on conservation more appropriate to this generations challenge.

"Defenders of the short-sighted men who in their greed and selfishness will, if permitted, rob our country of half its charm by their reckless extermination of all useful and beautiful wild things sometimes seek to champion them by saying the 'the game belongs to the people.' So it does; and not merely to the people now alive, but to the unborn people. The 'greatest good for the greatest number' applies to the number within the womb of time, compared to which those now alive form but an insignificant fraction. Our duty to the whole, including the unborn generations, bids us restrain an unprincipled present-day minority from wasting the heritage of these unborn generations. The movement for the conservation of wild life and the larger movement for the conservation of all our natural resources are essentially democratic in spirit, purpose, and method."

The issue of “sustainable energy” or “renewable energy” being built on public lands will continue to escalate over the next 5 years IMO.

The argument of “not in my back yard” will be of little significance moving forward IMO.

 

[roadtripper]

Massachusetts is completely wacky. They want to "go green" by building this windfarm, but then it's becoming highly likely that they will build one or two massive casinos that will probably use as much or more energy.

Reduction in energy is the key - NOT just finding more energy through renewables.

 

[Bob]

yay...I want one in my back yard!

 

[Little Rickie]

This is a little closer to my home but the same issue. I'm all for it.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com...Interests-Threaten-Offshore-Wind-Farm-Project

 

[BobC]

Can't we just produce energy by harnessing the heating effects of global warming?

 

[peakbagger]

http://www.wind-watch.org/news/2010/04/29/wind-farm-runs-into-a-little-turbulence-in-rumney/

A new wind project closer to the whites in Plymouth and Rumney

 

[Snowflea]

Bunch of whiners



Pretty sure most people--and, if they had the capacity, all the innocent animals that are about to perish--on the Gulf Coast would opt for wind turbines over off-shore drilling.

What a sad, sad time...

 

[Stash]

Can't we just produce energy by harnessing the heating effects of global warming?

Or the "hot air" from many of the reasons for NIMY?

 

[Craig]

<sniffing>
Is that money I smell?
</sniffing>

In a morning press conference both National Grid and Cape Wind refused to answer repeated questions about the total cost of the project to ratepayers and taxpayers as a result of massive public taxpayer subsidies – estimated in the billions of dollars – and necessary electrical grid improvements that ISO New England has estimated at $10 billion.

The Spin

Cape Wind president Jim Gordon said, "The question is whether folks are prepared to pay 5 cents a day for a better energy future.