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Ok my curiosity is getting the better of me

I assume your asking to save weight by not bringing a stove to melt.


Sooo.... If someone said it was flowing - would you honestly not bring a stove and hope its still flowing?

May have my assumptions wrong - but had to ask
 
Hey Rick -- a reasonable question deserves a thoughtful answer.

There's an AMC group heading out there this weekend. You might want to touch base with Ed Hawkins after the weekend to see what he says.

Since I hope to be heading out that way in a couple of weekends myself, it would be good to get some current ground beta as well, so it would be appreciated if you could post anything you may find out.

Not sayin' what I'm bringing either way --and neither should you or your group feel compelled to defend your pack contents--- because its not pertinent biz-ness whether I have a stove, bivy, kilt, ADK patch, flame retardent suit, axe to grind or whistle to blow....hike your own hike and enjoy.
 
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una_dogger said:
Not sayin' what I'm bringing either way --and neither should you or your group feel compelled to defend your pack contents--- because its not pertinent biz-ness whether I have a stove, bivy, kilt, ADK patch, flame retardent suit, axe to grind or whistle to blow....hike your own hike and enjoy.
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Thank you Sabrina. :)

For those who are wondering what I might be carrying, just read my Owl's Head TR for a glimpse. On longer trips, I add a few more items.

However, that still doesn't answer my original question, is the spring clear and running?

Neil said:
Giggy,
Maybe the OP wishes to avail himself to the kilt washing facilities that abound there.

Just sayin
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I would never pollute a backcountry spring with Woolite.
 
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I thought I had a legit question - sorry if it offended anyone. Maybe I was too sarcastic. I apologize for that.

the spring is down by the camp if we are talking about the same one - assume it was a backpack MR was talking about - just saying conditions change and what might be flowing last week - might not be next week.

I don't think many dayhikers head down there on day traverses...

again - didn't mean any disrespect to MR - he has been at the game for while - just trying to see the thought behind it.
 
No offense taken. I was just curious. I know people do overnights to Guyot in winter and so I was wondering if someone had used the spring recently. I will have enough water and I can refill if need be once I'm on the flats.
 
jjmcgo said:
Woolite but Canada doesn't have Bayswater anymore, which would have been the ideal answer here to the annual chafing questions.
It was fantastic stuff for diaper rash, probably full of lead or something.
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So at 5:45 in the morning, one of the first things I did after waking up was click on what I thought was the thread topic "Guyot Spring". Reading the above words, I had to blink, rub my eyes, and stare really hard at the screen for some before I figured out that no, I was not still sleeping or having some sort of weird hallucination due to having used an excessive amount of fabric softener when I last washed my pillowcase. (Turns out I a had simply clicked on the "most recent reply" link. :eek: )
 
Really, who wants to climb the extra 200' down and back up from Guyot shelter, quite possibly breaking it out, if they can find out from advance information that the spring *isn't* running?

It seems like a reasonable question to me.

Woolite, on the other hand, scares me, despite the fact I use it on my hiking and skiing sweaters.
 
Ok...another question:

Do you more often BRING all your water for the day (for day hikes) or do you bring some...and then a stove/fuel and take a break to melt snow when you need more water? If you melt...do you boil the suggested "5 minutes"?
 
Imzadi said:
Ok...another question:

Do you more often BRING all your water for the day (for day hikes) or do you bring some...and then a stove/fuel and take a break to melt snow when you need more water? If you melt...do you boil the suggested "5 minutes"?
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Don’t waste the fuel boiling for 5 minutes. If you feel the source is contaminated, use water purification drops.

BTW, woolite is NOT an acceptable alternative to water purification drops. :)
 
Imzadi said:
Ok...another question:

Do you more often BRING all your water for the day (for day hikes) or do you bring some...and then a stove/fuel and take a break to melt snow when you need more water? If you melt...do you boil the suggested "5 minutes"?
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To answer your question Imzadi, if I were to personally do a Bonds traverse I would carry 5 liters to start, which would easily get me over Bondcliff coming from Zealand. After that I would refill at the first stream crossing with my filter. I would also have my stove as a backup. Others might have a different setup. I always carry 3 liters anyway, so two more isn't that much more weight.

A caveat if you please, if I am breaking trail all the way, all bets are off and I refill/melt before Bondcliff, hence the spring question.
 
Craig said:
Don’t waste the fuel boiling for 5 minutes. If you feel the source is contaminated, use water purification drops.

BTW, woolite is NOT an acceptable alternative to water purification drops. :)
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:eek: WHAT...I heard woolite was good for ANYTHING!!! Darn...so much for my next trip!
 
MadRiver said:
After that I would refill at the first stream crossing with my filter. I would also have my stove as a backup.
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Ok...as for a filter...

We have the one that has the ceramic filter (can't remember the brand) and it works quite well...BUT...we took it up to Mt. Adams to use. It froze up and wouldn't work. It froze in the tubing and at the small inlet hole and around the ceramic filter. We tried to warm it up...but it kept freezing. Luckily...at the cabins...there isn't really a problem and the water can be used directly.
 
Imzadi said:
Ok...as for a filter...

We have the one that has the ceramic filter (can't remember the brand) and it works quite well...BUT...we took it up to Mt. Adams to use. It froze up and wouldn't work. It froze in the tubing and at the small inlet hole and around the ceramic filter. We tried to warm it up...but it kept freezing. Luckily...at the cabins...there isn't really a problem and the water can be used directly.
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I consider my filter would be a one shot deal. Even if I drain all the water out prior to the next use, it might still clog/freeze so I know I can only use it once per trip and therefore plan accordingly.
 
In summer I carry 2 liters of water and my Aquamira purification.
In winter I usually carry all I need for the day which is usually between 2 and 3 liters. But, we almost always have a stove, fuel and cookpot with us on winter trips as an emergency.

I think the original question was a fine question. If I were doing any kind of Bonds trip, I would also want to be armed with that information, in case it was of value once on the ridge.

sli74
 
Imzadi said:
We have the one that has the ceramic filter (can't remember the brand) and it works quite well...BUT...we took it up to Mt. Adams to use. It froze up and wouldn't work. It froze in the tubing and at the small inlet hole and around the ceramic filter. We tried to warm it up...but it kept freezing. Luckily...at the cabins...there isn't really a problem and the water can be used directly.
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Ceramic filters can also crack if frozen. The crack can allow contamnated water through.

Doug
 
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