Looking for Reasons Not to Go to West Royce (23-Aug-2008)

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1HappyHiker

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Dunno, probably it’s just me who sometimes gets what I’ll call “Hiker’s Guilt”. I’m talking about hiking to a particular spot and knowing that another summit is close-by in the same area, and then feeling guilty if you don’t go to that other destination as well. You know, you’re already close, so why not go? On my 23-August trek to East Royce, I had a case of “Hiker’s Guilt” about West Royce.

East Royce is a summit that many hiking friends have highly recommended to me. And so, for quite awhile it’s been on my list of places to visit. West Royce is very close by, plus it’s on the NH 52 With-a-View list. And so, since I would already be in the vicinity, I felt I should pay a visit to this summit as well. BUT, for whatever reason, I was finding it difficult to work up enthusiasm about adding West Royce to my trek.

In about 55 minutes, I made it to the more frequently visited “tourist summit” of East Royce where the official trail ends. I took a few snapshots, and then headed directly to the northern knob where I was told the views are better. The less-visited northern knob of East Royce is reached via a herd path, and this took maybe another 10 minutes to trek over there. And so, I’m now just a bit over an hour into my journey, and there’s still plenty of time to visit West Royce.

The views from the northern knob of East Royce are indeed very nice! Particularly nice is the view to the west looking over the Wild River Wilderness at the Carter Range with tops of the Presidential Range on the horizon, as shown in the photo below.
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I lingered there on the northern knob of East Royce for close to an hour eating a leisurely lunch, and soaking in the views (and the sunshine!). And then “Hiker’s Guilt” began to grab me about trekking on over to West Royce. So, I packed up my things and trekked the short distance back to the “tourist’s summit”. Once I arrived there, I pulled out the map and calculated it would involve an additional round-trip mileage of 3.7 miles to add West Royce to my trek. Hmmm! With the amount of time still available to me, I wondered if it was still doable (or was I just looking for excuses not to go there?!).

While calculating the mileage to West Royce, I remembered that a friend had told me that there was once a trail that came off the summit are of East Royce that headed in a southwestwardly direction toward the Royce Trail. Below is an old map which shows this old trail. (The present-day Royce Connector Trail is hand-drawn in red.)
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Hey! I thought maybe I could find this old trail and save myself some time. And besides, this would really be fun!! (Or, was I still just looking for an excuse to do something other than go to West Royce??)

So, I was now on a mission to find the old trail off the summit area of East Royce. I explored several false leads (all of which ate up scuds of time). But finally I found a faint path that showed some promise. I checked my compass and it was heading in the right direction, and I checked my GPS and it showed that from where I was standing, it was only about 0.2 mile to the Royce Trail. So, I was off on my fun adventure!

About 5 minutes into my “fun adventure” I came upon a ledge that had some fine views to the east toward Kezar Lake and Mt. Caribou. It was a very comfortable ledge for lingering, and so I did! Below are a couple of photos from that ledge, and below these photos, my tale continues!

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Eventually “Hiker’s Guilt” came around. So I decided to get up from my comfortable ledge and continue following what I think was the old trail. Several times I lost all trace of the “trail”, but it was easy whacking despite the very steep terrain, and I just continued on the same bearing. The total whack time from the East Royce summit to the Royce Trail was only 20 to 30 minutes (not counting the time spent lingering on the comfortable ledge along the way!).

OK! Now I was on the Royce Trail and it was decision time . . . go to West Royce, or not? I decided NOT!! I had managed to fritter away enough time that now it would really be pushing it to go over there. And besides I thought, I definitely wouldn’t have enough time to enjoy the views once I got there. (Or was I still just looking for excuses not to go to West Royce today?!)

THE BOTTOM-LINE TO ALL THIS: I really enjoyed the hike up to East Royce and the views from there are fabulous. Those who recommended it to me were right! Also, it was great fun exploring what might have been the old trail that went SW off the summit area of East Royce.

And oh yes! I will eventually get to West Royce, but today just was not the day!!

1HappyHiker
 
Were you able to follow that old trail most of the way or was it mostly a compass bearing and bushwhack?

I'm pretty fond of West Royce; the views aren't as sweeping as from East Royce but it's a quieter, less touristy summit. The Burnt Mill Brook Trail is lovely.

-vegematic
 
vegematic said:
Were you able to follow that old trail most of the way or was it mostly a compass bearing and bushwhack?

-vegematic
Although the “trail” that I followed started and ended about where I thought it should, I can’t say for certain that it was in fact the old, abandoned trail. This “trail” did not show some of the same evidence of wear as some of the other abandoned trails I’ve traversed. But, on the other hand, I don’t know how long the abandoned trail was in existence. Maybe it wasn’t there long enough and/or used frequently enough to develop a more enduring evidence of wear.

But to answer your question, doing what I did was about half bushwhack and half following the traces of what appeared to be a trail. Along my route, there was some sporadic orange tape-flagging which was quite faded. So, at some point in the past, someone has used this route for something.

Hope this helps!
 
My son and I were on East Royce on the 20th (last Wednesday) and ran into the adopter of the the East Royce trail and thanked her and her husband for their work. It is a fairly steep trail but is in very good shape due to the excellent maintaince. When I said that we had visited the western viewpoint she rolled her eyes and said "Oh, you used the forbidden trail". I replied that it was mentioned in the guidebooks and she smiled. They were both very nice but I was curious about the "forbidden" comment.

On the 20th it was about 60 at the top with 20-30 mph gusts, a perfect August day! I would have stayed up their much longer if I could have.
 
Quietman said:
It is a fairly steep trail but is in very good shape due to the excellent maintaince.
I just want to echo what you’ve said about the great condition of the East Royce Trail. The maintainers for this trail have done a superb job!! The corridor is well brushed, and more importantly for a steep trail such as this, the water bars are cleaned to perfection.
 
Quietman said:
My son and I were on East Royce on the 20th (last Wednesday) and ran into the adopter of the the East Royce trail and thanked her and her husband for their work. When I said that we had visited the western viewpoint she rolled her eyes and said "Oh, you used the forbidden trail". I replied that it was mentioned in the guidebooks and she smiled. They were both very nice but I was curious about the "forbidden" comment.
Just re-read your comment about the trail-maintainer using the term “forbidden trail” to describe the herd path to the west viewpoint on the north knob of East Royce. Most likely she was just making a joking comment since it’s an “unofficial” trail.

However, it’s interesting that sort of tucked away below that northern knob is some sort of a remote solar powered instrument package. I took a photo (see below), but didn’t give this a second thought until now. Perhaps the owners of that gizmo don’t want folks messing with their “whatever”?! Maybe that’s why it’s a “forbidden trail”???
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I saw that too and walked down to it but there was nothing on it that would describe what it was or who put it there. The assumption would be that it is some kind of air quality or weather monitoring station.
 
I saw this on labor day while hiking with my daughter and she was really interested in what it was. There was a wire heading down hill to the south, didn't bushwack to see where it ended up. It was weird to see this in such a spot.
 
Gizmo

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I noticed this last year, too. I'v been wondering what it's purpose was since then. It looks quite similar to the device which measures the water flow and depth at the dam on the pond where I live. It may transmit water flow measurements from Wild River? Just guessing.
KDT
 
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Kevin said:
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I noticed this last year, too. I'v been wondering what it's purpose was since then. It looks quite similar to the device which measures the water flow and depth at the dam on the pond where I live. It may transmit water flow measurements from Wild River? Just guessing.
KDT
Its a solar cell array (solar panel). Presumably power for whatever is at the other end of the wire.

Doug
 
It sure would have to be one hell of a long wire to be taking any readings from the wild river. The river must be at least several miles from this spot. I am going with a weather station of some sorts. I now wish I would have followed the wire a ways down. This is not a long hike and maybe this is a good reason to get back up there and do West Royce :)
 
Kevin said:
but what is its purpose on East Royce. Maybe to aid emergency communication out there?
Could be a radio repeater, could be some environmental sensing equipment, an off-the-grid homestead, or maybe it is an electronic hiker trap--who knows? Trace the wire and take a picture of whatever is at the other end.

Doug
 
The wire to the west looked to be more of a guy wire. There is a substantial hardware box under the solar array that would seem to be the user of the solar power(2'x4'). Curious George will try to figure this one out! Hope that the man in the white hat can help!
 
View from W.Royce

I did W. Royce last summer with my daughter via the Burnt Mill Brook Tr. I was interested to see if there was any remaining signs of the long gone firetower. The summit is fairly overgrown so any remnants of the tower are possibly hidden. Anyway, we didn't think the restricted view to Evans Notch was very good. The views from E. Royce are much better.
 
West Royce

Agreed, the views from East Royce are better. The fire tower remains can be found in an open are just west of the trail on West Royce. The pilings and quite a bit of debris are still evident.

KDT
 
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