more New England mountain lion rumors

[Little Rickie]

"The Men in Black" is not fiction. If F & G had one of these

they would have used it by now.

 

[JacobH]

It sounds like F&G thinks there are an awful lot of wild Golden Retrievers around new England.

 

[Red Oak]

Another family in the north central MA town in which I live has evidence that seems credible to them, and me as well. In their discussions of this evidence with F & G, they've been told their evidence is inadequate. They've gathered more, and have been told that that too is inadequate, and have been on this carousel a few times. They've been told that nearly anything they can gather would be considered inadequate. Otherwise, regulations for endangered species and other measures would need to be considered for the area. Apparently, and this is what they have been told, political pressures are such that the pressure against recognizing these (or other endangered) creatures is extreme.

Is the classification of Eastern mountain lions extinct or endangered?The eastern mountain lion is considered extinct.... here is a map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cougar_range_map_2010.png
I still believe most legit sitings are escaped or turned loose pets....

 

[Chip]

I still believe most legit sitings are escaped or turned loose pets....

I still believe a big hungry cat in the woods is a big hungry cat in the woods .

Sounds like this Whitefield one is stuck east of the Ct River for a while maybe ?

 

[Maddy]

It sounds like F&G thinks there are an awful lot of wild Golden Retrievers around new England.

YES!!! And they are all runaways! I was told it was because they do not like their natural organic dog food.

 

[Fitz]

Concord, MA - July 29, 2012

July 29, 11:11 a.m. – A Concord Greene Resident reported she thought she saw a mountain lion near the residential community’s pond. The area was checked, but the animal was gone on arrival.

2:20 p.m. – A Barretts Mill Road resident reported seeing a cougar on her street, near College Road, on July 21.


Fitz

 

[Fitz]

Framingham, MA

I heard a radio report this morning that a woman saw a mountain lion in her backyard yesterday in Framingham, MA. Maybe the Concord Cat is touring suburbia?

 

[funkyfreddy]

Is the classification of Eastern mountain lions extinct or endangered?The eastern mountain lion is considered extinct.... here is a map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cougar_range_map_2010.png
I still believe most legit sitings are escaped or turned loose pets....

I find it hard to believe that so many are escaped house pets..... I don't know ANYONE who's ever had a mountain lion for a house pet, do you?

It's not as if you procrastinated getting your cat fixed, it got pregnant and had cougar kittens

 

[Red Oak]

I find it hard to believe that so many are escaped house pets..... I don't know ANYONE who's ever had a mountain lion for a house pet, do you?

It's not as if you procrastinated getting your cat fixed, it got pregnant and had cougar kittens

I was really just trying to be nice to the pro lions in nh group.I do not know any one who has a mountain lion.If there are some people out there,I bet they are drummers who could not tell the difference [us git players know whats up!]

 

[rup]

Man. We were out there in the woodsies of Maine last year seeking ways to climb up Abrams. It was very isolated. Thought we heard (bigfoot) woodknocking, etc. I'm gonna be packing from now on.

 

[Stan]

I don't know ANYONE who's ever had a mountain lion for a house pet, do you?

Yes, a good friend of mine had a pair of snow leopards for many years. Real lap cats with him. I'll check with him to see if he minds sharing a few more photos and stories but meanwhile, here's a photo from facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10151067960111545&set=p.10151067960111545&type=1&theater

 

[nartreb]

Just go to YouTube and search for something like "pet mountain lion"... granted most of those are out West, but here's a source that includes some estimates for the east (page 48): "There may be thousands of captive pumas in the eastern United States (Bolgiano 1995, Downing 1994a)"
http://www.fws.gov/northeast/ecougar/pdf/Easterncougar5-yearreview-final-111610.pdf This is despite the fact that keeping a pet Cougar is illegal (or highly restricted) in about all of the East. Maine had 11 permitted captive pumas as of 2011 (page 15); I think Vermont had 4.

 

[Maddy]

This is an interesting web site if we haven't already posted it.

http://www.cougarnet.org/northeast.html

 

[Tom Rankin]

Yes, a good friend of mine had a pair of snow leopards for many years. Real lap cats with him. I'll check with him to see if he minds sharing a few more photos and stories but meanwhile, here's a photo from facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10151067960111545&set=p.10151067960111545&type=1&theater

It's not public, or some other problem.

 

[Red Oak]

Yes, a good friend of mine had a pair of snow leopards for many years. Real lap cats with him. I'll check with him to see if he minds sharing a few more photos and stories but meanwhile, here's a photo from facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10151067960111545&set=p.10151067960111545&type=1&theater

The only info on that species in new england seems to be here http://www.zoonewengland.org/page.aspx?pid=220
info on snow leopards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_leopard
Are you sure your bro has snow leopards?They do not seem to be to common anywhere!

 

[Stan]

Are you sure your bro has snow leopards?They do not seem to be to common anywhere!

They were snow leopards, indeed rare. He (Al) had male and a female for many years and sold the "cage" to a zoo after they died. The female, who he had the longest, is now mounted and afforded a place in their home ... where his wife doesn't have to look at it ALL the time. We had some interesting discussions over tequila tailgates on what position to mount her in ... no! not the wife, the cat!

I'll get some photos. Some interesting stories on how Al acquired them which I'll verify on some details before posting.

Freddy asked if anyone knew of someone who actually owned a mountain lion as a house pet ... close enough, eh?

 

[funkyfreddy]

http://greenwich.patch.com/articles/a-new-mountain-lion-sighting-in-connecticut-c63b4ebe

 

[funkyfreddy]

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/05/is_there_a_mountain_lion_prowl.html

 

[Fitz]

My son is traveling on the Masspike tonight. He just called me and said he saw a mountain lion next to the highway in Beckett, MA, westbound. 7:20 PM. He is 15 years old, but a hunter, and outdoorsman. I asked if it had a tail, and he said, "yes". At first he thought he was seeing an African lion.

 

[John in NH]

Man provides pictures of what he believes is a mountain lion track on Crawford Ridgepole trail between Morgan and Webster:

http://www.wmur.com/escape-outside/...nge/-/18282296/22913768/-/qvjovq/-/index.html