NE3Ks - Garfield E. and W. Peaks?

[Amicus]

I recently acquired a 20-year old version of the New England 3,000-Footer List (my first of that one) that includes both Garfield East Peak, at 3,590 feet, and West, at 3,667. Looking at my AMC Franconia-Pemi map, it looks as though each may be a little way off the Garfield Ridge Trail, so I can't properly count them from having traversed that Trail. Is that right?

 

[Mohamed Ellozy]

Looking at my AMC Franconia-Pemi map, it looks as though each may be a little way off the Garfield Ridge Trail, so I can't properly count them from having traversed that Trail. Is that right?

Correct.

The east peak is a short distance off the trail, the west one a slightly longer distance, but still a trvial bushwhack.

 

[dms]

so I can't properly count them from having traversed that Trail. Is that right?

Both summits have registers, and both summits are off the trail, so to count them you should go to the actual summit.

 

[AntlerPeak]

Both summits have registers, and both summits are off the trail, so to count them you should go to the actual summit.

Am I looking at the right summits on Topozone? It seems both the 3667 and 3590 foot summits are east of Garfield. So how is it they were named East and West? Since there is only a directional name shouldn't it be East and Middle?

 

[Papa Bear]

How about East East and West East?

 

[dms]

The list can't be wrong!

Am I looking at the right summits on Topozone? It seems both the 3667 and 3590 foot summits are east of Garfield. So how is it they were named East and West? Since there is only a directional name shouldn't it be East and Middle?

I just hike em, I don't name em! But, they are Garfield Ridge Peaks, theoretically separate from Mt. Garfield itself. Maybe Roy can add some insight on this apparent misnomer.

 

[Mohamed Ellozy]

My take, for what it's worth, is that these are two minor summits that, for lack of a more imaginative name, have been called the "Garfield Ridge Peaks". The eastern of them would thus be East Garfield Ridge Peak, the western one West Garfield Ridge Peak.

 

[JimC]

Mohamed has it right. The correct name for these peaks is E & W Garfield Ridge.

 

[Cath]

AND.............
Garfield Ridge West peak summit sign is labeled as Mt S Pam

 

[John H Swanson]

I thought it said Mt Spam ???

 

[dms]

John you are right, that's what it says, Mt. Spam, what it means I don't know.

 

[bill bowden]

And the other is named Pam!

At least according to a sign I saw sometime during the ice age. But both peaks have had registers in the past and to claim them you should do them. for aficionados of multiply named peaks, at one time the summit sign on South Hale read Zeale (halfway between Hale and Zealand) while the Wolf Cub is also named as "Gordon Pond Peak"

BTW, I have more up to date lists if lists are your thing; if hgikes ar eyour thing....rock on.

 

[dr_wu002]

The register was ruined on Garfield Ridge Peak East (3590') when I was there a week ago. Spongebob had replaced it with a new register but the old papers were completely ruined. I've been there twice, there's a register but I don't recall a sign.

-Dr. Wu

 

[skiguy]

3000 footer list?

Who, Where, and What maintains and has the current 3000 footer list?

 

[John H Swanson]

At least according to a sign I saw sometime during the ice age. But both peaks have had registers in the past and to claim them you should do them. for aficionados of multiply named peaks, at one time the summit sign on South Hale read Zeale (halfway between Hale and Zealand) while the Wolf Cub is also named as "Gordon Pond Peak" .

And do you remember the sign on Little Wildcat? It was "kitten"
A nice sense of humor.... It was Ray that placed all the green and white signs?, right?

 

[Kevin Rooney]

Who, Where, and What maintains and has the current 3000 footer list?

"We" could tell you, but then "we'd" have to kill you.

It exists, but first you'll need to know the secret handshake. And then there's the bit about the decoder ring. And then ...

 

[skiguy]

"We" could tell you, but then "we'd" have to kill you.

It exists, but first you'll need to know the secret handshake. And then there's the bit about the decoder ring. And then ...

You really don't want to go skiing with me on a POWDER DAY.....I have this saying TNP..."Take No Prisoners"!

 

[bill bowden]

Lists of peaks

Skiguy asks a question without a particularly coherent answer. The FTFC (four thousand footer committee) maintains several lists which they recognize and give awards for, namely NH 4000 footers, NE 4000 footers and NE Hundred Highest. The FTFC officialy does not recognize the NHHH or 3K peaks and so there is no "official" list. While it doesn't recognize the list, the FTFC tries to keep a roster of individuals who have finished these unrecognized lsts.As a result, several hikers (including several members of the FTFC) have compiled and distributed lists of their own.

If this answer makes sense, I respectfully suggest you seek professional assistance.

In that spirit I have compiled lists of NHHH and NH 3K peaks and have a copy of one NE 3K list. Have fun!

 

[Amicus]

John you are right, that's what it says, Mt. Spam, what it means I don't know.

I'm thinking Monty Python, but I'll keep it to myself.

Alas, I suspected that, despite the name of the "Garfield Ridge Trail," the lack of canisters when I traversed it a couple of summers ago must have meant that it missed those two NE3K peaks. I remember lots of PUDs and thinking it was not a Trail I'd care to repeat, but I guess I'll have to. I did in any case want to get back to the summit proper of Garfield for the views, as it has been socked in on both of my summit visits.

As to the various versions of the NE3K list in circulation, I am happy with my 20-year-old version even if some of the elevations have been superseded. I'm a retro kind of guy and it suits me.

 

[Mohamed Ellozy]

I remember lots of PUDs and thinking it was not a Trail I'd care to repeat, but I guess I'll have to. I did in any case want to get back to the summit proper of Garfield for the views, as it has been socked in on both of my summit visits.

The section from the Gale River junction to the west peak is not really bad; I did both as an in and out that way. The really nasty part is the climb up Garfield (the descent is no better).

Let me suggest that you do the ridge peaks by the Gale River approach, and leave the summit of Garfield as a separate hike up the Garfield Trail.