Trainwreck
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So what do you all do when you get to the shelter and there is a party with a tent ...erectedinside of it. How can one tactfully tell them to set up elsewhere if they were there first?
I hope the guy & gal at the Slide Brook campsite from last weekend are members and read this.
I believe that the Long Trail Guide for instance gives leanto capacity, but if there is a caretaker they occupy several spaces - the capacity of Taft Lodge was reduced by 8 from what it once was to allow for thisWho decides when one is full? Are their capacities posted to resolve this ?
I think I saw somewhere that only one group is allowed per Wilderness campsite so other people could not share your site unless you decreed them part of your group
http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/white_mountain/recreation/camping/backcountry_rules_2008-09.pdf
Who decides when one is full? Are their capacities posted to resolve this ?
I may be in a position to start camping in the next year or two so I am curious... and I'm not necessarily (nor particularly at this time) interested in NY.
Tim
I don't know about other states, but the only place in NY where I've seen a specific figure (8 persons for a lean-to) is in the 13th edition of Adirondack Trails:High Peaks Region. Most lean-tos in NY are designed with 8 people in mind, though some are smaller (6 people). Offhand, I don't see these figures in the UMPs.
Does that wander over most of the map ???
MR
Even another "group" of 1 is too manyBy that definition, I can be a group of one and your group of 9 can't technically / legally muscle in. The "rules" as written require careful reading, and almost reducing them using Venn diagrams to really know what's legal where
Good point TC.
So just for the record, the people we talked to were awake and sitting by a fire. Both the camp site and the lean-to.
Hold the phone...
These two jamokes were not only hogging a lean-to designed for 8+, they also BUILT A FIRE !?!?!?
In the EASTERN HIGH PEAKS REGION !?!?!?
Pure class, all the way...
Yes, this was discussed a while back. Seek and ye may find...This is only slightly off thread, but has anyone else hiked all day to arrive at the best summit viewpoint where a party is having their lunch and continue to occupy that spot denying you the view?
I guess it is all a matter of human courtesy which some have missed somewhere in their education process, but I thought in kindergarten we were taught to share.
Reading through thread not sure, so this couple had the tent set up inside
the lean-to !!! ? Sounds like you took the high road L R and showed you had more class,I probably would of done the same but not before letting them know about the tent.Even If they were a little green it's still not an excuse.Basic 101 ADK camping etiquette.
I hate to be the turd in the punchbowl, and I'm glad you were able to turn this into a positive experience, but let's review a few salient facts...
1) it was a big holiday weekend
2) you arrived after dark
3) you were a group of five, with kids
I mean... what did you expect? Most people don't appreciate having to share camping space with a group of five, especially a group that includes kids, especially after dark. I'm not familiar with that campsite, so maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like you put the couple in a pretty tough position.
If you feel somebody is squandering a needed resource, just say so.
If my experience hiking has taught me only one thing, it is to be self sufficient. The minute your plans hinge on there being an open space in a shelter or tentsite, you need to seriously reconsider your planned trip.
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