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I still have a decent amount of peaks to hit (19 to be exact) on the New Hampshire 4000 footers list, but I have a few planned and a backpacking trip, which will really pare my list down. I'd like to give some thought as to what my last peak will be since so much thought has gone into the experience.

To me, the list has been a project, a creative outlet, a challenge, an adventure, and a social opportunity. I started the list as a therapy of sorts. Something that would keep me occupied, interested, and feeling good about my progress. The project had to involve a challenging and adventurous activity to be enjoyable and hiking certainly fulfills those requirements for me. My decision to work on the list resulted in a great social opportunity though as well; joining the AMC young members group. While searching for info on the 4000 footers I came across a webpage somewhere that mentioned the young members group. This sounded like an ideal opportunity and indeed it was. I've met a lot of really cool people in the group during various activities and events and on all my 4000 footers hikes I've done with members I haven't had a hiking partner that didn't enrich the experience. As a result, working on the list has been even more beneficial than I expected.

Part of the challenge was to finish the list in a year. This allowed me to think creatively in terms of how I would complete the list and how I would climb each peak. My results might not have been "innovative" but I did put a lot of thought in. I planned out how the hikes could best be done in order to meet my goal (not necessarily the order, but which ones would be done together and by what trails). Once my network of hiking partners flourished though, my plan quickly deteriorated since it didn't always mesh with the plans of others. Along the way I chose to do non-4k trips too, like a visit to Acadia National Park, which I'm glad I didn't miss. I'm glad I incorporated the time part of the equation, even though I didn't meet my goal, because in the end, it got me out a lot, and if I wasn't hiking it was because I was doing something else worthwhile.

I want to choose a final hike that will personify what the list has meant to me.

The mountains I have left are: The bonds, The twins, the Hancocks, the Kinsmans, the Carters, Carter Dome, Moriah, Isolation, Zealand, Hale, Garfield, Galehead, and Carrigain.

Carrigain is planned for this weekend. My backpacking trip will definitely include the Bonds, South Twin, and Zealand and possibly Garfield, Galehead, North Twin, and/or Hale. It probably won't include both Garfield and North Twin, so one of my options could be Garfield or North Twin (whichever one I haven't done).

One possibility is Hale, which would be an easy enough hike for some non-hiker people (like my parents) to join. I'm not sure that really personifies my quest though.

Not looking for an answer, just thoughts and suggestions.

Thanks!
 
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Greetings

Hey Gator -

First, welcome to VFTT. You are almost done!! I have done 19 peaks since 4/30 and now only have 11 to go. Of the peaks you have not done, or planned out I would suggest Isolation (great views, adn well...Isolation) if you are not bringing non hikers and Garfield if you are. Isolation is not tough in elevation gain, but it is a whopping 14.6 miles. Garfield is about 10 miles RT, but only has one minor difficult section (basically rock steps) near the summit. I just did Hale this past weekend and while it is among the easiest it also has almost now decent views - kind of a let down for such a momentous day.
I am finishing on Jackson for the possiblity of bringing some nonhikers...good luck!! :)
 
Hey Gator

You mentioned Garfield as a final but I don't see it on the list.

I did Garfield as my final NH 4000 footer. It's a great hike and a bit steep (as Sapblatt said) and very rewarding. I spent a long time at the summit looking at the surrounding 4K mountains and reminiscing about the all the other hikes. The VFTT are spectacular. You can see Franconia Ridge, Owl's Head, Galehead, the Twins and The Bonds. I was giddy with excitement the entire time and the trip seemed to take minutes rather than several hours.

Enjoy
 
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Whoops! Edited for correction and I had forgotten Galehead as well.
 
Why not do something that might be low on the radar screen - the Kinsmans? They were my last 4kers (in 1966!). Easy drive, easy hike, near to a lot of places to celebrate at afterwards.
 
My choice: Carrigain

I have given some thought to this recently. Though I still have a long way to go, I'm saving Carrigain (in fact, please save the date: Columbus Day Weekend, 2006). It will be my 48th, my 67th, and my 115th, it all goes as planned (and what opportunity for it to not go as planned, given all that remains on the list). But anyway, this seems like a grand peak to do it on, the views are reported as superb (as opposed to a much easier Hale, for example), it is just a bit closer than spots like Carter Dome, and not quite as long as the Bonds.

Good luck with your quest!
 
I think Garfield would be a great choice for a final peak. Even though the mileage is long, it's an easy hike except for the last couple of tenths of a mile, so non-hiking friends could probably make it just fine. I would pick Garfield over Hale because the views are so much better.

I finished on Carrigain, which was a beautiful peak. I chose it because you can see so many of the other 4K's from the summit and I had a great group with me to help celebrate. The only dower was that it's a long & strenuous hike and my husband, essentially a non-hiker, ended up turning back before the summit because it was too much for him. I really wanted him to be there to celebrate too since I owe him a huge thank you for putting up with my many backpacking & hiking absences on the weekend. If you have non-hikers you want with you, this definitely isn't the peak to finish on.

- Ivy
 
Gator: I'd give Carter Dome some consideration. You could hike in with your folks and they could go to Carter Hut while you summit Hight and Carter Dome, meeting them at the Hut afterwards where you could hike out with them. Hale would not be high on my choices, though it is a nice peak, and quite easy. Garfield was my 48th, and was a fine choice as it is relatively easy (Carrigain was originally the choice, but an open road on 12/15 made it too tempting to push off for another season). North Twin is not a good choice for non-hiking friends IMHO: 3 fairly tough water crossings, a fairly lenghty steep hike. It's a great summit, so you'll enjoy it more "on your terms". For the others, none have that combination of "easy with pizazz" for your finish.

whitelief: eMail me. I'm headed to the ADK's in August if you'd like to join in. We can bag whatever peaks we need (Guinness set up an itinerary for me. I'm still convinced that he's secretly trying to kill me :eek: )
 
'North-to-South' Bonds Traverse.

I did this hike mid-way through the 'list'. Immediately after I finished this traverse, I began to wish that I had saved it for the end of my 4K quest.

I can't think of a better place to celebrate completing the 4K's than a beautiful day atop Bondcliff.

just my 2 cents......
 
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I have 36 of the 48 done. I'm saving Carrigain for last. This is a popular one to finish on. I see that you're planning to do it this weekend so, unless you change your plan, that's out.

Of your remaining peaks, I think Moriah would be a good choice. This was the first 4K I did after deciding to complete the list in 2003. I visited Steve Smith's store the day before the hike to buy his book "The 4000-Footers of the White Mountains," and the hike was his suggestion.

I went up the Stony Brook Trail, and the entire hike was terrific. Views from the summit are superb. The description that I wrote on the application simply says "Perfect day, perfect hike". You mentioned the possibility of non-hikers such as your parents joining you. They might find a short steep section just before the summit a challenge.

Steve
 
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roadtripper said:
'North-to-South' Bonds Traverse.

I did this hike mid-way through the 'list'. Immediately after I finished this traverse, I began to wish that I had saved it for the end of my 4K quest.

I can't think of a better place to celebrate completing the 4K's than a beautiful day atop Bondcliff.

just my 2 cents......

Bondcliff is where I finished, we hiked in the day before, set up camp, then in the afternoon did some serious hogging down the view.
 
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The mountains I have left are: The bonds, The twins, the Hancocks, the Kinsmans, the Carters, Carter Dome, Moriah, Isolation, Zealand, Hale, Garfield, Galehead, and Carrigain.
Thanks!

I finished on Carter Dome in summer and it was pretty anti climatic. There are short trees that you have to stretch to see over. If you finish in February or March I hear this peak is much better if you are standing on 5 ft of snow to see over the trees.

Hale is pretty mediocre too. I did in winter though and the hike out along the road at full moon was unforgettably nice.

If had to choose a top view in all of New Hampshire West Bond would be in the mix. Perhaps hit Bondcliff and Bond on one long day or backpack trip, then on your last day do Zealand and finish on West Bond. A difficult final day though.

Garfield and Kinsman (Kinsman especially great in winter with view to snow capped Franconia) are both spectacular and relatively easy, either is a good choice.

Hancocks were nice but I do not remember much about them, I did them in November rain that changed to snow at higher elevations. I remember how much nicer it got when the changover to snow occured. There was no view but that was due to the clouds (I think). Many stream crossing so it will always be pretty.

Galehead is very forgettable, just something to knock off on the way to South Twin.

Net: I would do Kinsman in winter or West Bond in any season.

It really does not matter because you probably won't be done anyway, you will keep right on hiking, if you are like me.

Cheers- John
 
As seen in the film I finished on Madison. I had a great group of family members come along and those who could not, had waited elsewhere preparing a picnic dinner as celebration.

Of your list... I guess if you want folks to come along.... I guess I'd choose Hale 1st, Garfield 2nd and Carter Dome 3rd in order of ease.

If it's not of importance to have EVERYONE come along... then I'd choose Isolation or maybe Moriah.

I guess it all depends on what is in your heart and what the journey has meant to you.
 
would you consider celebrating with people afterwards?

what immediately jumps out at me is isolation (done via glen boulder).
 
last one

Ive got 9 left, here's my thoughts;

Isolation would be good, as it frames the Presidentials in a great way, probably one of the reasons it is the most popular to end on(I have a friend whos on the comitee, who told me this)

Carrigain has a great view, allegedly where you can see the most peaks from, and its the second most popular to end on.

Personally, I am choosing to do Wildcat, being that my first was Washington, so I can bring it full circle, by ending in Pinkham where I began.

Just don't end on Hale, a viewless peak would be anticlimatic.
 
I like SherpaK's idea of Carter so family could make an over night of it with you. Hale is rather anti climatic, but probably the easiest you have left that non-hikers could join you.

We finished on Bondcliff and still count that as one of the top 3 peaks in New England (hitting Baxter State Park this weekend - so it ranking could change). We are planning on that as our last peak when we finsih the Winter 48. If you do not have family pick Bondcliff but be sure you have a nice sunny day.
 
I doubt there's any one mountain that can perfectly sum up your experience, and if you choose a final one based on its accessibility to non-hiking members of your family, it will be even less representative of your experience.

Either get together with all your new hiking friends and pick the time and place that would be most thrilling for all of you, or just let the chips fall where they may.

Carrigain may be the most attractive as being somehow representative, because it's sort of in the middle of the Pemigewassett, but I didn't find the views all that special. Not from the summit, anyway; the approach along Signal Ridge was far better (spectacular, actually) than the view from the observation platform.

The final year of my initial round of the White Mountain Four-Thousand Footers presented me with eight to climb. I just climbed them as seemed most convenient, as I'd been doing all along, and it worked out that my final three were the Bonds, specifically West Bond, as we hiked in from Lincoln Woods.

It worked out great. The number of other hikers on each peak diminished with each summit until Susan and I had West Bond to ourselves. For ten minutes or so, anyway.
 
Carrigain's in the mix since I won't be doing that this weekend it turns out.

I don't think I'd have my family do a portion of the trip (a la carter hut while I do the dome). It's not imperative that they go. I think they could do garfield. I'll probably get that one during my backpacking trip, but if I don't, that would probably be a strong consideration.

The bonds aren't really an option. My backpacking trip will happen before I finish the others plus I'd prefer to finish on a day trip.

I don't think I have a good idea when I'll finish. Depends on how much non-hiking stuff comes up this summer. If I finish around foliage season I'm thinking Moriah might be great. I've found the Pinkham Notch area to be pretty spectacular for foliage.
 
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