jjo
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I use all the time except on flat terrain. They help with stability and take pressure off the knees. Its a little like 4 legs IMHO
Related to that statement, I often see people whose poles are adjusted way too long. They have to elevate their shoulder girdle uneccessarily every step of the way. That leads to a sore neck and upper back, hypertrophied and overstimulated trap muscles and potentially, tendinitis of the rotator cuff.Zer0-G said:You would be surprised to notice how your shoulders appreciate this type of relaxation on a long walk. Using what is known as the standard walking stick posture, I find my upper and middle trapezius muscles carry a lot of stress due to the constant lifting of my arms with poles to a right angle to the ground (when bent at the elbow, forearms parallel to the ground).
Zer0-G
Your poles may be too short for effective use on the downhills (you need to be able to plant them down the hill ahead of you). I adjust my pole length to match what I am doing--shortest uphill, medium on the level, and longest on the downhills. If on an extended traverse, I might even use different lengths. And , of course, there are times when I am better off without them so I either hang them on an arm (short sections) or stow them on my pack (longer sections).Zer0-G said:Actually, I use very light, very thin and short poles (for my size).
I always have them with me. I usually (always) use them on the uphill treks. Based on that, I had my poles cut short 110 cm. They are one piece, non retractable single section poles. A person my size would probably use , if you go by the book, 120 to 125 cm poles.
I never ever use them going down hill. I feel much more confident and much less awkward not using them on the down hill. Having had both knees surgically repaired it took quite a while to strengthen the muscles around my knees to be able to do that. With poles, going downhill I feel really awkward and out of balance. I like to have my hands free when descending. I have more balance and confidence.
DougPaul said:Your poles may be too short for effective use on the downhills (you need to be able to plant them down the hill ahead of you). I adjust my pole length to match what I am doing--shortest uphill, medium on the level, and longest on the downhills. If on an extended traverse, I might even use different lengths. And , of course, there are times when I am better off without them so I either hang them on an arm (short sections) or stow them on my pack (longer sections).
Pete's Poles Page includes some comments on setting the length depending on what you are doing: http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/poles.htm
Doug
Depends on what you want from them. When I used to train for skiing, the long poles worked muscles that shorter ones don't.Neil said:Related to that statement, I often see people whose poles are adjusted way too long.
And if they do ever freeze up at 30 below, don't try to thaw them in your mouth. It is almost as bad as eating a popsicle at 30 below, but looks funnier.I find the screwhome mechanism often freezes up on me in winter
Yeah, long poles angled back like in x-c skiing is OK. In fact you can really propell yourself along. What I usually see though are arms reaching for the sky to pole plant on flats and especially on uphills.Pete_Hickey said:Depends on what you want from them. When I used to train for skiing, the long poles worked muscles that shorter ones don't.
And if they do ever freeze up at 30 below, don't try to thaw them in your mouth. It is almost as bad as eating a popsicle at 30 below, but looks funnier.
Yeah. You want short poles for that.Neil said:.....long poles ....
At 30 below I usually thaw my poles by shoving them down my pants.
Yes, I think BD developed the mechanism. At least I've never it on any other brand of pole.Neil said:I have a question. Is BD the only pole with the flicklock mechanism? I find the screwhome mechanism often freezes up on me in winter (even if they are bone dry at the TH) and am in the process of getting new poles anyway.
FlickLock is a tradename, presumably of BD.Neil said:I have a question. Is BD the only pole with the flicklock mechanism? I find the screwhome mechanism often freezes up on me in winter (even if they are bone dry at the TH) and am in the process of getting new poles anyway.
OK. IMO, anyone seriously interested in poles should learn good technique with full-size adjustables. Then one can make an informed choice on how/whether to use them (and, of course, any modifications to the poles).Zer0-G said:Yup. They are too short for downhills, because I had them cut that way. I prefer not to use the poles going down hill. I am much more comfortable going downhill without the poles.
I used to use poles for downhills. The three section type, set longer to 120 or 125 cm. But over time, I stopped using them on downhills altogether.
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