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the starchild

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my old insulated boots are done, spent, wet and dead! i need a new winter, insulated boot for 2-4 day backpacking trips and day hikes.

i went to a local ems and tried on 6 different pairs of insulated boots. the north face balatoro 400 were the best, although they are taller than i wanted and i don't love them. nothing else came close. the columbia bugaboo's don't seem suited to backpacking. another TNF boot and another brand were far too small in the toe box. very dissappointing.

what are y'all using?
 
My Koflack Extreme Vario or some such name like that. They're nearly 10 years old and still in pretty good shape. Most of my winter trips these days are in plastic ski boots. :D

-dave-
 
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i know you guys won't listen to me but my merrell winterra's have yet to let me down! last year in all that frigid weather i never got cold in them. they work great for snowshoes & hiking also; waterproof, vibram soles, etc (see link below). for those of you who have been using sorel's you;ll love these because they are just as warm; if not warmer but much more suited to hiking. the only downfall would be that they don't take a step-in crampon but only a universal one. but i've found that the time period for needing crampons is pretty short compared to snowshoes so the only time i need crampons i can still get by with my vasque alpines which take a step-in crampon. then i switch to my winterras when there's more snow & snowshoes are needed & i take my universal crampons with just in case. however, i wish boot manufacturer's would wake up & realize not all hikers need mountaineering level gear and make more good winter boots for hiking, snowshoeing & occassional crampon use. currently you have: expensive, heavy or somewhat uncomfortable plastics for warmth & fully auto/step-in crampon use; expensive shoft shells that may have some thinsulate in them for warmth & auto/step-in crampons, insulated boots that are ok in snowshoes but suck for hiking or insulated boots that are great for hiking & snowshoeing but don't take a stepin crampon. you shouldn't have to buy $400 mountaineering boots for use around here that's just crazy.
take a look at these & see what you think: http://www.shoebuy.com/sb/s.jsp/r_s...-94.73957-402.80725/sh_B_Merrell/p_1/st_13009
and for those of you who also have used sorels check out cabel'as they also make some nice winter insulated hiking boots very similar to the merrells. in both cases the prices are very reasonable for these boots compared to high end mountaineering boots.
 
the starchild said:
the columbia bugaboo's don't seem suited to backpacking.

Those are my winter boots, and I agree. Advantages are that they are warm, comfortable, and cheap.

I want to upgrade to something that will accept step-in crampons, but have yet to find the right boot.

Steve
 
here we go....

OK, winter boots;

How long of a trek?
If overnight or longer, either my Scarpa Invernos w/Intuition liners (actually Morrow brand made by Intuition) or my LaSportiva Nepal Extremes with OR Brooks Range Overboots. I use VBL socks in either case.

If a day trip with only a potential for an emergency overnight (another situation altogether...), i use the LaSportiva Nepal Extremes with my Croc's, again using VBL socks.

I've frozen my toes too many times to not be extra careful in my old age. :D

Mm
 
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That's not the first strong endorsement I have heard about the Merrell Winterras. Everyone I have met that uses them likes them, and rarely (if ever) complains about cold feet.

Three boots come to mind with regards to being good hikers, insulated, and capable of accepting step-in crampons. Admittedly, I haven't hiked in any of them, but they look promising.

Fiamma Karbo GTX. Lightest of the three.

Mountain Lite Karbo GTX. The only full leather boot of the three. Probably the warmest, but also the heaviest and most expensive of the three.

Raichle All-Degree Pro GTX. Unfortunately, the link for these boots has recently been removed from the Raichle website. I hope that doesn't mean they are discontinuing these boots. Although, that could be a good thing if they end up on Sierra Trading Post. These boots were by far the most affordable ($215 retail) and quite light as well.

All three of these boots used a Goretex Duratherm lining, like that in the LaSportiva Lhotse, which would also be another good choice in this category, although heavier, and more expensive I believe. Good luck finding a retail location where any of these boots are sold. If you do, please let me know. I suspect it will be mail order only.

Although all of these boots have both front and rear welts, some manufacturers may suggest not using a front bail on some lighter weight boots, but the rear bail would not be a problem. The issue is that the lighter weight boots may flex slightly, allowing the complete step-in crampon (front and rear bail) to pop off, perhaps at the worst possible time. See the Grivel New-Matic binding for an example of a strap on the front and a bail on the rear. It is worth contacting the manufacturer to see what they advise.

These boots all have complete rubber rands, as well, and hence will take an insulated supergaiter; a nice option for those brutally cold winter days. Based on price, weight, and the ability to add a supergaiter, the Raichle All-Degree Pro GTX would probably be my first choice (assuming they fit well). The boots would work nicely for mid to late fall and early to mid spring hiking as well, when there is no snow cover at lower elevations, but snow and ice at higher elevations.

The Cabela's Winter Gear Boot also looks promising, but will not take step-in crampons and may not be as well suited to hiking on trails once the snow cover is gone at lower elevations.

John
 
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I'm using an old pair of Galibier Makalu double leather boots or Salomon SM Lites. If I were looking at new boots, the list would include the Salomon Pro Thermic and Vasque Ice 9000.
 
The winter boots depend on what I'm doing:

Skiing mostly downhill: Scarpa T1

Skiing up and down: Scarpa T3

(I also have some old soft leather ski boots for around the local park cross country trails.)

Climbing: I used to climb in the old (!) purple Koflach Ultras. Couldn't afford vario extremes or any of the other upgrades. Since then I've switched to a softer leather climbing boot. It's a Trezzeta I picked up from Sierra Trading Post for $110. Best deal ever. Climbs great, as easy to walk in as a summer boot.

Of course you can put snowshoes on any of the above boots. If I'm just hiking or snowshoeing, and not climbing or skiing, I either wear the Trezzetas, or I put the Neos overshoes over a summer boot, or over my trail runners if it's not too cold (like down to 15F). I used to have a pair of Sorel Dominators. Very warm, but heavy and sloppy, and I would sometimes get blisters from sliding around in them. The Neos overshoes have really solved that. I'm thinking about picking up another pair that fit over my Trezzetas for really cold climbing approaches...

TCD
 
LaSportiva K2's. Kept me happy and warm for several years now.
 
Columbia Excellerators

I like my Excellerators. They're a single boot that claims to be good to -40. Not as heavy as plastics, plenty of support, work well with strap-on crampons, good and waterproof.

But if I backpacked (which I don't), I'd think hard about a double boot. Maybe Baffins which seem not as soft and floppy as Sorels.
 
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Alpina Mount leathers most of the time, Lowa Civetta plastics for multi-days and ice climbing, Garmont Excursions new this season for skiing backcountry stuff.
 
Montrail I.C.E. 9's for most & Koflach Verticals for extreme. Both can be used for trails or technical. I.C.E. 9's are better for trails & Verticals are better for technical. If you want one boot that covers all & best price, I would agree w/ the Degre's. ($269.00) Less money than the I.C.E. 9's ($420.00 although you do get a nice $85.00 gaiter included). Watch for sales, I got mine at aprox 30% off. The I.C.E. 9's are a great boot!

Tom
 
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Hey Carole I hope you happen to get back in this topic as I have a question. I owned Lasportive Lhoste's which I loved for there comfort and fit but the stiching blew out and I returned them. You said you own the Lasportive K2's and I know there built warmer then the Lhoste's, how happy are you with them? Im thinking I need the extra warmth, as Im heading to the Whites, out west Lhostes where warm enough. A firts hand opinion would be appriciated. Thanks.
 
1. Snow-less hiking: Limmer Standards. I have very warm feet, but I would not take these boots into any subzero stuff, after I had them out the other morning in +11?F. (Unlike my recently retired Raichle Eigers, which were also heavy leather but felt warmer. Or maybe that's just the warm glow of nostalgia .....)

2. Snowshoeing with no hiking: Columbia Bugabootoos (also my town boots). Light and warm, but not enough support for carrying a pack and not suited to crampons.

3. Everything else: Lowa Civettas (plastic double boot). Once they're on, I don't think again about my feet until it's time to get in the truck or get in the sleeping bag. And yes, I love the stiffness. I think it's actually an aid in walking in snow.
 
Scarpa Invernos. I'd like to try a pair of Arctis Extremes someday though, but the Scarpas have never let me down.
 
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