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A broad ranging group of initiatives spanning generations, geographical regions, and DEI policy.
A broad ranging group of initiatives spanning generations, geographical regions, and DEI policy.
AMC Action Plan for 2025-30
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Lots of words, short on specifics.
Get your check book out now.
JoshandBaron
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I've spent weeks in their MWI the past few years, using their boats and roads and campsites and shelters, and given them precisely $0 for what have been some of the best camping and fishing and wildlife and stargazing experiences of my life. If they want to preserve the 100 Mile while charging what they do for everything else, more power to them.
Very nice. Sounds like you had a good time. Like I said. Get your check book out.
Yury
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What is "MWI"?
Maine Woods Initiative
Creag Nan Drochaid
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I just read the entire AMC Action Plan 2025-2030, twice. With growing membership from 90,000 to 150,000, member and public
programs, loaning gear, DEI initiatives etc. I have no problems, and I cannot easily imagine how anyone could. I have found AMC people
I have met to be welcoming and inclusive throughout my membership of 30+ years. Likewise for advocacy of conservation issues
in the NE USA. Like all mission statements, this has big dreams but leaves specifics till later. It is like a party platform in politics.
That being said, some of the initiatives will need public money, and lots of it. The LWCF $300,000,000 needs a vote of Congress;
the AMC may advocate, but they will not of themselves fund that. They are one among many partners, and compromises will happen.
Region-wide, 30 new partner organizations? The AMC works now with existing groups that are smaller and more local, while being
just as committed to the same goals. "30 new" sounds a mere advertising claim that ignores the good work done together.
These mountains are a land of heavy rains, steep slopes, thin organic soils. Many older trails run up and down the fall line. It takes not very much foot traffic to cause significant erosion on such trails. AMC and other pro crews, volunteer crews, and individual adopters, have all been relocating trails to lesser grades, building waterbars, steps, and pavers, chopping blowdowns and cleaning drains etc. for at least
50 years. Climate change has hastened some erosion, but trail conditions more often result from steep design, lack of erosion control
fixtures, or failure to maintain what's there. How do 3 more FRT jobs, in only 5 years, put any more workers on these other existing trails?
In fairness, the AMC and other groups are trying to do just that, but you'd not know that from this appeal.
Over to you fellow hikers. Am I fretting over a squall in a shot glass?
programs, loaning gear, DEI initiatives etc. I have no problems, and I cannot easily imagine how anyone could. I have found AMC people
I have met to be welcoming and inclusive throughout my membership of 30+ years. Likewise for advocacy of conservation issues
in the NE USA. Like all mission statements, this has big dreams but leaves specifics till later. It is like a party platform in politics.
That being said, some of the initiatives will need public money, and lots of it. The LWCF $300,000,000 needs a vote of Congress;
the AMC may advocate, but they will not of themselves fund that. They are one among many partners, and compromises will happen.
Region-wide, 30 new partner organizations? The AMC works now with existing groups that are smaller and more local, while being
just as committed to the same goals. "30 new" sounds a mere advertising claim that ignores the good work done together.
"Greater White Mountains Region
Using the Franconia Ridge Trail project as a model, we will work with land management partners to secure funding for three large-scale, multi-year restoration projects. Projects like these restore highly popular trails, which can see up to 1,000 hikers a day on summer weekends and have experienced significant erosion, washouts, and overall trail degradation due to climate change." - Action Plan 2025-2030These mountains are a land of heavy rains, steep slopes, thin organic soils. Many older trails run up and down the fall line. It takes not very much foot traffic to cause significant erosion on such trails. AMC and other pro crews, volunteer crews, and individual adopters, have all been relocating trails to lesser grades, building waterbars, steps, and pavers, chopping blowdowns and cleaning drains etc. for at least
50 years. Climate change has hastened some erosion, but trail conditions more often result from steep design, lack of erosion control
fixtures, or failure to maintain what's there. How do 3 more FRT jobs, in only 5 years, put any more workers on these other existing trails?
In fairness, the AMC and other groups are trying to do just that, but you'd not know that from this appeal.
Over to you fellow hikers. Am I fretting over a squall in a shot glass?
JoshandBaron
Well-known member
Maine Woods Initiative. Their goal is to preserve the entire 100 Mile. So far they have acquired 100+ thousand acres near Greenville around the headwaters of the West Branch of the Pleasant River/Gulf Hagas and operate several lodges. Some of it is part of KI Jo Mary and access is managed by North Maine Woods, Inc from May to October. Much of it is still being managed as a working forest. Car camping paradise.
I've driven around a bunch of these areas, it's a fantastic place. Also hiked things here and there, pieces of the AT, little trails to various falls, etc. My girlfriend's father manages a bunch of those NMW sites, and also works at Jo Mary Campground half the year - when we go up, we camp there, on the lake with a stunning view of Katahdin. The AT is indeed kind of a preserved corridor, with logging all around.
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I am confused. If some of your have such fine things to say about the AMC’s MWI, why do you refuse to give the AMC any money?
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