Blantant Breaking of the Hiking Rules

[DeadFred]

I propose that we leash politicians and let the animals roam free. Wait a minute...the politicians are animals too.

 

[shadowcat]

peace ok guys?

is everyone having a bad day or something? post-election syndrome? wow! i guess i need to be even more careful how i say things. here i thought i was trying to bring some more ideas to the table and instead you'd think i wanted to start a war. as one personal note to me just said regarding my post on this issue (which i didn't start) : "It now only serves to anger and divide people. Can't you agree to disagree and feel comfortable with your view? Do you have anything positive to share? Can we please stop this negative banter? "
i'd like to respond to that openly because it matters to me that we are all on the same page here, because if we aren't then i shouldn't even be on this site:
first, half the fun is having differences of opinions. if everyone agreed the threads would be pretty darn dull. i don't mind if someone disagrees with me and i'm certainly not threatened by it. and if i wasn't comfortable with my views, i sit here like a bump on a log & not say a word.
and it's insulting to call my post or anyone's "negative banter" - or ask if i "have anything positive to share" everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if you read my post you'd know i wasn't trying be negative! yes, the dog thing has been done over & over, but sometimes a new person doesn't realize that, starts a new thread & opens up the flood gates all over again. you can't stop that.
lastly: we've had all kinds of discussions heated or otherwise but i have never felt that anyone really got that angry or divided & in the end we are all still here the next day, carrying on. i would hate to think that anything i said would ever hurt or anger anyone on this site because that is never my intention. i like to see both sides if possible and sometimes i'm right and sometimes i'm not. no biggy

 

[DeadFred]

shadowcat...

No, no, no. Please...I was only trying to bring levity to an issue that I don't like to participate in anymore. This issue has good points on both sides. So speaking for me and me only (well, Dakota, too) my post was only meant to joke around and intentionally try to make light of the issue. I'm sorry if you took my comment the wrong way, it was only meant to poke fun at BOTH sides.

BTW, I have seen this issue brought up for a couple years now and it ALWAYS turns bad. I think you can see now how that can happen, even though you tried to bring thoughtful dialogue into the thread, it ALWAYS goes sour.

 

[shadowcat]

deadfred

i was referring to a personal note someone sent to me on my home email. nothing you said. i don't understand tho why this topic always has to get so icky. it does seem to be one topic that gets real personal. i suppose in a way, it's a good sign - showing how protective we are of our animal friends and anything that might threaten their happiness is a personal attack on the owner who is only trying to defend them? i know how i am about my cats so i do understand. now if i were to take cloe a 350# baby bengal tiger hiking w/ me will she have to be leashed?

 

[Barry Sr]

Without Lassie, my childhood would have been a miserable disaster. June never insisted we leash Lassie, ever.

Please stop. I can't take it any more.

Sincerely, Timmy

If that was Lassie leading the way up tully, then he must of been having a bad hair day.

It was the perfect example of doggy harmony, yours roaming free but unobtrusive and mine leashed and learning. The only complaint was from your dog wanting to be left alone that early by an over friendly pup.

I would go with your dog anywhere.

 

[hillman1]

I'm thinking we can get ten pages if we really try...I just want to add--I am a dog lover. I almost went to jail for it, but thats another story for somewhere else on the net. But another reason my dog does not come to the high peaks is that he will defacate anywhere. Definitely in the middle of the trail, or on arctic plants above treeline. So he gets to stay home while I go hiking most of the time. He might do the NPT this spring with me, but I think he should be able to drop a load just about anywhere out there with out anyone really noticing, and he can run free and get in touch with his inner puppy. I bet we can get this thread locked if we really try.

 

[jade]

BarrySr......as I reminded Carmen later in the day, she used to be a crazy pup jumping all over, shall we say more mature dogs. She agreed that she would like to go hiking again with the big guy in the kilt and his handsome dog, Loki. She would like to remind you to bring your allergy meds the next time...

 

[ADackR]

is everyone having a bad day or something? post-election syndrome? wow! i guess i need to be even more careful how i say things. here i thought i was trying to bring some more ideas to the table and instead you'd think i wanted to start a war. as one personal note to me just said regarding my post on this issue (which i didn't start) : "It now only serves to anger and divide people. Can't you agree to disagree and feel comfortable with your view? Do you have anything positive to share? Can we please stop this negative banter? "
i'd like to respond to that openly because it matters to me that we are all on the same page here, because if we aren't then i shouldn't even be on this site:
first, half the fun is having differences of opinions. if everyone agreed the threads would be pretty darn dull. i don't mind if someone disagrees with me and i'm certainly not threatened by it. and if i wasn't comfortable with my views, i sit here like a bump on a log & not say a word.
and it's insulting to call my post or anyone's "negative banter" - or ask if i "have anything positive to share" everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if you read my post you'd know i wasn't trying be negative! yes, the dog thing has been done over & over, but sometimes a new person doesn't realize that, starts a new thread & opens up the flood gates all over again. you can't stop that.
lastly: we've had all kinds of discussions heated or otherwise but i have never felt that anyone really got that angry or divided & in the end we are all still here the next day, carrying on. i would hate to think that anything i said would ever hurt or anger anyone on this site because that is never my intention. i like to see both sides if possible and sometimes i'm right and sometimes i'm not. no biggy

i have no ill towards you or anyone that posts their opinions... i think it's great to be able to share points of view that others may not agree with.... it's a form of comunication and really it helps people think.....

from you're postings i started to take it in another direction.... i was bringing out the snowmobile contradiction...that one will surely be jsut as crazy as the dog threads get....

im also glad that this thread is still going, it brings people out and also breaks up the monotomy around here....

happy hiking...

 

[Dugan]

There's an answer for dogs that defecate anywhere. Carry bags. Pack it in, pack it out. Secondly, for urination (or should that be firstly?), whether it's dog management via leash or voice, don't let them go near water sources or other sensitive areas.

As far as hiking on leash, it doesn't seem to hamper either Dugan or me. And a leash is just as much safety for your dog as for that of others. If they're on lead, there's no worries about running into old trap lines, wells, barbed wire, porcupines, etc.

I'd hike again with Carmen any day, Jade. She's one of the best mannered hiker-dogs I've had the pleasure of meeting. Barry, I think you're giving Loki a good start too, he's very good for a pup.

 

[DeadFred]

Thanks Shadowcat...

I figured you were speaking to one or two particluar posts, but I just wanted to make sure you took mine the right way.

Now, I'm outta here...mush, doggies, mush!

 

[mavs00]

You see, we now live in a different, more peaceful, less stressful time. For the most part people are too happy to bicker over this VERY TIRED topic.......................

Wait another month or two (when people come back down to earth) and you'll have a much more lively debate.

I stand corrected