"Easiest" route for Baxter and Hamlin Peaks?

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OK, here's the deal. Several years ago my wife and I tried to climb Katahdin via the Abol Slide. We got caught in a sudden thumder and lightening storm and had to turn back. We are planning on going back to Baxter this summer and I'm trying to plan the best route for us to take.

The thing is, my wife is not as active or as fast as I am. That said, I'm looking for a route that's less of a challenge than the slide presented for her. We are planning on doing the Brother, Fort, & Coe loop while there as well so it's important that we get both Hamlin and Baxter Peak on the same day. What would be the best route to ensure that she's still got energy for the following day's hike?
 
Saddle Trail

We did it -LAST SUMMER- via the Saddle Trail and it was pretty darn easy. I'm told it's an easier route. My kids (14 and 12) had no problem and there were tons of other young-uns along the way to. We had weather issues so we did not do Hamlin, but we could see that from the top of the Saddle Slide that it was a similar easy walk up as Baxter peak was from there.

That's my take anyway. It was the only way I've done, so I can't compare it to other trails, but like I said, I was pretty surprised at the ease of the trail. The mountain just looks like there is no easy way to do it, so I was surprised :D
 
I would hike up from Chimney Pond via the Saddle Trail, hit Baxter and back down, hit Hamlin and back down via the Saddle Trail or from Hamlin head over Hamlin Ridge and down.

I don't know how fit she is but none of the trips up Baxter and hamlin are "easy" and the Fort, Brothers, Coe loop is not super easy either particularly when you do the two days back to back.

sli74
 
Nartreb & I bagged both Baxter & Hamlin last Sept or early October, then N. Brother (but not Coe or Fort). One of the best-blazed trail systems I've ever been on; I'd gladly pay an entrance fee if all trails were that well-marked, w/ signs on all of the summits!

We went up Helon Taylor Tr. to Pamola, then the Knife's Edge to Baxter Peak. Unless one were afraid of heights, in which I case I don't think I'd recommend it, or the winds were really high, I didn't think the Knife's Edge was really as hard as it's made out to be, but there was a chimney which might pose a challenge if someone's drastically out of shape. Nothing but rocks, rocks, rocks along this section.

From Baxter, we continued on to Hamlin Peak via Saddle Tr. & Basin Tr. The rocks become a little smaller here, and there are actually some grassy sections.

The descent from Hamlin Peak via the Hamlin Ridge Tr. was fairly steep. Trekking poles were a big help for me.

As far as the roads being unpaved, they were still very well maintained, about the best dirt roads I've ever driven on. If your wife is adverse to digging catholes, there are privies at all the trailheads.

The only thing I would mention about the N. Brother hike is that after the Mt. Coe Tr./Marston Tr. junction, we kept looking for a stream crossing (indicated on the AMC Maine Mountain Guide Map) as a reference point. The closest thing we found was a part where the ground was a little moist, and we both guessed that the trail had been re-routed. Blueberries at the summit (signed) were a welcome treat!
 
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Last year I went up Abol Slide to Baxter and down the Hunt. Even without bagging Hamlin it was pretty darn strenuous and exhausting. Both trails have some very challenging scrambles both for ascent and descent.
 
When we did this trip, we went up Chimney Pond going to Hamlin first and then hitting Baxter and coming down Saddle. My husband, who does not hike often, turned back at the junction before Chimney Pond. The climb up Hamlin was rocky to me but fine...it was a very hot day and there was very little water to be found.

We did a play day and then did Coe, Brothers and Fort the next day. My husband decided to come with us because he didnt' want us doing Fort by ourselves. (He loves us and knows how easily I get turned around) It was a long day and having to go back up N Brother after Fort did my husband in but we all made it. I do have to say we didn't ask him to hike for a little bit after that because as I told the kids, "It's kind of like asking a woman who just went through child birth if she wants another one)...we gave him time.

If your wife doesn't hike much...be patient with her and take a day in between if you can so she can recoup. The are both long days for someone who is not used to that.
 
If I was trying to avoid Knife Edge this is what I'd do, up almost to Chinmey Pond, head over to Hamlin via Hamlin Ridge, across the top to Baxter Peak & down the Saddle. Saddle is probably the easiest of the Katahdin trails but as others said, it's not all that easy. Could reverse this which IMO gives you better views on the descent but by hitting Baxter peak first you will get there when most of the other hikers get there too.

(most trails are approximately, give or take a mile, about the same length & day hikers get in the gate at the same time therefore they all get to the top around the same time. By doing the less popular Hamlin first you get to the more popular peak after most poeple have started down.)

My last Katahdin trip was several years ago & we went up Helon Taylor, Knife Edge over Baxter peak & over to Hamlin. Top of Baxter peak so crowded, fog shrouded & a couple of smokers on top (Thru hikers who had quit during the trip) so we went down the trail a little before eating. On the way over to Hamlin we found a group of older AMC hikers doing the same loop as us in reverse. All the people we shared the summit with would most likely be gone when they got there. We did have the Hamlin summit to ourselves & the fog lifted to about 5,000 feet so we had a great view of part of the KE & the rest of the area.

I've got to get back there myself, I was in the park two years ago but got rained on all day :(
 
black flies

warning: try to find out when the black flies are worst.

My first "real" hike ever in the mountains (!) (long story) was at BSP sometime in early/mid July 1994, up Chimney Pond & I think the Saddle trail, a friend & I turned back because we could not both climb up those boulders & simultaneously shoo away the blackflies; you need 3 hands for that. The next morning I came into class covered with purple welts, & our professor, a born & bred Mainer, took one look at me, stopped teaching & said something pithy & deadpan -- "forgot your bug dope?" perhaps, I can't remember.

a week or two later a bunch of us went back & the flies were almost gone.
 
I also did Abol and Hunt two years before the trip that Matt mentioned. If you made it most of the way up Abol, the other trails suggested previously will be significantly easier.
If you're trying to save time/energy, stay off the Knife Edge even though that's by far the most scenic part of the mountain. (stay off it anyway in wet weather) I believe the easiest route is the Saddle trail, you could take it both ways (T-shaped hike to get both Hamlin and Baxter) or mix it up with the Hamlin Ridge trail. If you don't mind hitchhiking back to your car you could also consider the Hunt Trail (aka A.T.) from Katahdin Stream campground. In contrast, the Cathedral Ridge trail is visibly tougher than those other three.
 
arghman said:
warning: try to find out when the black flies are worst.

My first "real" hike ever in the mountains (!) (long story) was at BSP sometime in early/mid July 1994, up Chimney Pond & I think the Saddle trail, a friend & I turned back because we could not both climb up those boulders & simultaneously shoo away the blackflies; you need 3 hands for that. The next morning I came into class covered with purple welts, & our professor, a born & bred Mainer, took one look at me, stopped teaching & said something pithy & deadpan -- "forgot your bug dope?" perhaps, I can't remember.

a week or two later a bunch of us went back & the flies were almost gone.

This is a good suggestion. I have hiked the mountain in June the last couple of years, and the black flies in Baxter have got to be some of the most deadly in the world. You will have to spend the entire time inside your tent, or moving outside at a brisk pace or you will get eaten alive. Usually come middle July they are much better, august and september are the best months. For trails, as people have said, the Saddle is the easiest. It is also less vertical from the roaring brook side than from the Abol side of the mt. Also, the trail from just below chimney pond to the top of Hamlin peak is pretty easy technically, but is still a tough hike. You might want to go up this and over to Baxter, and then down the Saddle.
 
Put me down as another who thinks you may be biting off more than your wife can chew by trying to bag Hamlin along with Katahdin. I've climbed Katahdin twice and Hamlin once, and I'm pretty sure that would be a long, difficult hike to attempt both in one day. And you'd pretty much be stuck once you tried for the second peak.

On the other hand, I have never headed from Baxter Peak toward Hamlin , or vice versa, so I don't know how hard that may be. It seemed pretty flat on the top of Hamlin, but I don't know how long that lasts.

I've never been on the Saddle Trail, either, but is it really easier to hike all the way in to it, along the Chimney Pond Trail, I presume, and then have to climb it rather than just climb the Abol Trail? Abol is slow going, but I don't remember it being particularly tiring. Both times up to Baxter I went via the Abol. Chickened out the time I was on Pamola (the trail was actually closed, but I made it that far anyway) and found the Hunt Trail too difficult when I tried that by myself. Yeah, gave up too easily, but that's the way it went.

I was pretty scared at one memorable place when I descended the Hunt Trail in the rain following my first successful Kathdin ascension. I had to ease around a boulder, and there was just a straight shot down a chimney behind me with nothing but clouds visible down it. I don't think we'd gotten off the trail, because I'd joined up with two people who claimed they had a couple dozen ascents between them, so they should certainly have known where they were going.

There are a few places on the Hunt Trail where you need to use metal handles to haul yourself up or let yourself down the rocks. Hard to do while carrying a walking stick.

North Brother by itself is a long enough hike without adding Fort, never mind South Brother and Coe too.

Not to sound too gloomy, but I recently picked up some old Appalachias at our library's book giveaway and one of them had Gene Daniell's accident report on the man who died trying to climb (or descend) Fort Mountain (if memory serves he was posthumously awarded the ascent because it was his hundredth of the New England Hundred Highest), and one of the factors Gene believes contributed to the man's death (I'm sorry I can't remember his name at the moment, but he was a professor at Tufts University and the event was fairly newsworthy at the time) is the difficulty of reaching Baxter State Park and the inclination of peakbaggers to throw caution to the wind because they don't want to have to go all the way back to the park if they don't bag the peak now. Well, Susan and I blew off Fort a few years ago because it seemed too risky to try for it (light sleet, clouds constantly scudding through the col), and we'll just have to go back. Don't underestimate the difficulty. We don't want to be reading about you in the paper, or wondering if this dead person was good ol' Double Bow.
 
The trip between Baxter and Hamlin is just like it looks on the map - broad, fairly gentle slopes, no obstacles except distance and scarcity of water. It's a walk in the park, especially compared to any of the trails I've climbed in order to get up onto the plateau. If you go up the Saddle trail you have the option of picking either peak to do first, then deciding how much energy and time you have left. From the lip of the Saddle trail you'll have a close-up look at the route to both Baxter and Hamlin to help you make your choice.
The Brothers-Coe loop is longish (~7 mi, not counting Fort) for a second day, but not difficult (assuming you don't get lost on the Fort bushwhack), except that the Mt Coe slide (southern part of the loop) would be really nasty when wet. Just keep an easy pace and your marriage should be safe.
 
Raymond said:
Put me down as another who thinks you may be biting off more than your wife can chew by trying to bag Hamlin along with Katahdin. I've climbed Katahdin twice and Hamlin once, and I'm pretty sure that would be a long, difficult hike to attempt both in one day. And you'd pretty much be stuck once you tried for the second peak.
I've done both in one day in winter via Abol slide. Once you are on Katahdin or Hamlin, the other is just an easy 2mi walk away. Getting up to and down from the tablelands is the hard part.

Doug
 
Ray,

I can't comment on the Hunt or Abol but the trail from Roaring brook to Chimney pond is as close to a trail highway as there is. My first time up & down it, I just about ran down (okay I was a young 30 at the time & wired on Jolt & chocolate) this part slowing up just for hikers coming up & slighlty slower when passing people so I did not scare anyone. Once you reach Chimney Pond, you're at 2900 feet before any real climbing begins.

Cathedral should be avoided for novices & after prolonged wet weather or thawing as fatalities have occurred from moving boulders.

The view from Chimney Pond is among the best from the bottom of a cirque, IMO more impressive than Tucks
 
Thanks for the good advice all! I think the resounding suggestion here is to either take the Saddle up and back or if we're up for a little bit more of a challenge to go up Hamlin Ridge and come down Saddle. We are planning for her to take a "rest day" between the two hikes we're planning on doing while @ BSP.

I was trying to decide if we should stay at Katahdin Stream or Roaring Brook but I think that while the idea of summitting via the AT (Hunt) is enticing, that should wait for a future trip. I'll try to reserve a tentsite at Roaring Brook.

I may switch this trip with our final backpacking section of The Long Trail to reduce the risk of blackflies. I hadn't even thought about that. Thanks for the "heads-up".

BTW, just so people don't think that I'm dragin' poor Shamie (aka Mrs Double Bow) up peaks that she's nowhere near ready for (I'm smarter than that), let me tell ya' that she's done 53 of the 67. She's just trying to get back into the hiking mode after having been off the trail for about 6 months. Hopefully, she'll be back up to "book time" by the time we head out for the LT!
 
I would choose Roaring Brook. It is such a pretty area and has so much to do and see right there. Plus you are ready to start your day up Katahdin and Hamlin from there if you plan to go from that side. I figured she was a hiker of some sort, I had my doubts you'd drag a novice spouse up all those peaks without risking the "spouse" part :D

The day off in between is a good idea and that will make both trips more enjoyable plus you can check out some of the shorter easier hikes near Roaring Brook. It is a POPULAR spot so get your reservation request in early.

sli74
 
Giving yourself an extra day is a good idea, especially because you never know what will happen with the weather.

We got up there one year near Memorial Day and it was windy, windy. We did some smaller peaks around, waiting for two days to get up Katahdin. An extra day or so will give you the flexibility you need.

As for routes, don't ask me! I hiked Katahdin via Hunt and Cathedral (not on the same trip) and I've only done Fort in the winter :eek: . Needless to say, I think I have a slightly skewed view of Baxter!
 
Perfect timing for this thread....I just sent in my reservations this morning for mid August....if all goes well my 2 younger children will be going with me....this is also my 500 post, and because of this website I have been to NH,Maine,Vermont and ADK's....I wonder how long it will take for them to confirm or deny my request..

Spencer suggested hiking and camping at Chimney pond, hike and stay there..then go to Katahdin Stream and hang out there for 2 days....thx for the tips..
 
Baxter request turnaround

A couple of weeks ago I sent in my request for two nights at Roaring Brook in latter July. It was the first possible day for mailing under their somewhat complicated system. I got my letter back within 10 days, confirming our first choice.
 
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