Hypothermic hiker rescued from Little Haystack by helicopter

[skiguy]

Well, I guess "they" "checked the box". Are many people who might have an opinion likely to check out the "quarterly White Mountain National Forest Schedule of Proposed Actions (SOPA)" on a regular basis? Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few folks who are active in this forum who do, but I'll go out on a limb and speculate that it is not widely read.

Would probably take a few hours of some intern's time to reach out a bit, post in this forum and a few others that are more widely read, check back from time to time, and summarize any comment for the record. But that would make some sense, so I expect it will never happen.

TomK

A few links to check out in the meantime.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/whitemountain/?project=66490

https://usfs-public.app.box.com/v/PinyonPublic/folder/272338515752

 

[sierra]

Well, I guess "they" "checked the box". Are many people who might have an opinion likely to check out the "quarterly White Mountain National Forest Schedule of Proposed Actions (SOPA)" on a regular basis? Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few folks who are active in this forum who do, but I'll go out on a limb and speculate that it is not widely read.

Would probably take a few hours of some intern's time to reach out a bit, post in this forum and a few others that are more widely read, check back from time to time, and summarize any comment for the record. But that would make some sense, so I expect it will never happen.

TomK

When Josh posted that, I scratched my chin and laughed. I have never even heard of that and I highly doubt there are hordes of people rushing to comment on it.

 

[JoshandBaron]

When Josh posted that, I scratched my chin and laughed. I have never even heard of that and I highly doubt there are hordes of people rushing to comment on it.

There's some really interesting stuff on there. Like this proposal to ammend the forest plan to allow relocation of trails in Wilderness. Or this plan to develop Fabyans cabin to a rental.

Another one that just popped up is an expansion of Waterville Valley.

 

[DayTrip]

There's some really interesting stuff on there. Like this proposal to ammend the forest plan to allow relocation of trails in Wilderness. Or this plan to develop Fabyans cabin to a rental.

Another one that just popped up is an expansion of Waterville Valley.

I wonder if the Wilderness Trail relocation amendments are directed at trails like the Highwater Trail in the Wild River Wilderness which is chronically destroyed with floods all the time. I breezed through the proposal and I get the impression that is not possible under current regulations. If that was the goal of such a change that would be a positive.

 

[JoshandBaron]

I wonder if the Wilderness Trail relocation amendments are directed at trails like the Highwater Trail in the Wild River Wilderness which is chronically destroyed with floods all the time. I breezed through the proposal and I get the impression that is not possible under current regulations. If that was the goal of such a change that would be a positive.

I've only hiked Highwater from Moriah Brook to Black Angel, but I thought the sections of Highwater Trail plagued with washouts were north of the campground, outside wilderness. Though, relocation would probably put it in Wilderness if they move it away from the river any farther between Moriah Brook and Shelburne. Rocky Branch and Dry River could probably also benefit.

Edit: in reading some of the comments, it seems that the Webster Cliff trail is the catalyst.

 

[JoshandBaron]

When Josh posted that, I scratched my chin and laughed. I have never even heard of that and I highly doubt there are hordes of people rushing to comment on it.

In regards to people seeing things, the Wilderness trail relocation amendment has received over 1100 comments.

 

[KRooney]

In regards to people seeing things, the Wilderness trail relocation amendment has received over 1100 comments.

I read several these comments, and was impressed with how similar they were.

 

[JoshandBaron]

I read several these comments, and was impressed with how similar they were.

Some Wilderness advocacy group must have put together a form letter. Everything is from the same day.

 

[DayTrip]

I've only hiked Highwater from Moriah Brook to Black Angel, but I thought the sections of Highwater Trail plagued with washouts were north of the campground, outside wilderness. Though, relocation would probably put it in Wilderness if they move it away from the river any farther between Moriah Brook and Shelburne. Rocky Branch and Dry River could probably also benefit.

Edit: in reading some of the comments, it seems that the Webster Cliff trail is the catalyst.

Yes, actually you are right. I always thought the Wild River Wilderness began from Rte 113 but looking at Gaia the border is much further in (basically the Shelburne Trail and Basin Trail is the Eastern boundary). There are definitely some bad spots within the wilderness area (like the Sherburne Trail junction area which is a total dumpster fire right now) but the truly messed up areas are outside of the boundary parallel to the road and river. The section you mentioned doing has one blown out crossing (Moriah Brook) but then gets higher up and away from the river and is usually fine.

The Webster Cliff Trail is not in a wilderness area at all though (except for the small switchback starting the climb - which is in pretty good condition) so that is curious. I don't really recall any messed up sections on that trail unless they were going to reroute the climb so it was completely out of the wilderness area.

 

[jdhill08]

I wonder if the Wilderness Trail relocation amendments are directed at trails like the Highwater Trail in the Wild River Wilderness which is chronically destroyed with floods all the time. I breezed through the proposal and I get the impression that is not possible under current regulations. If that was the goal of such a change that would be a positive.

The second clause about "addition of existing travel corridors to the National Forest Trail System when for resource protection purposes" immediately made me think about the Black Pond "Bushwhack".