Presidential succession

[askus3]

jfb in a post on the Presidential Traverse thread brought up a game I started thinking about seriously. Maybe some of you want to help? Can you climb the Presidentials in succession (all presidential names count). I will start the idea and let you all chime in:

Is it possible to do this without doubling back or backtracking, obviously some backpacking is required?

To Washington: From Pinkham Notch or the Cog?
Washington to Adams - down the Great Gulf and up via Buttress & Star Lake Trails.
Adams to Jefferson - standard route - Gulfside & Loops
Jefferson to Madison - how to get from one to the other without retracing steps - good question?
Madison to Monroe: Without using Buttress again then: Osgood-Parapet-Madison Gulf-Nelson Crag-Alpine Garden-Crossover
Now back to JQ Adams: I give up!!!
Then on to Jackson: If you go by Presidential names.
Skip Van Buren & a few others - is the next one Pierce (is there a Tyler or Taylor around?)?
We have to climb that one again when we are up to Clinton.
What route should we use from Pierce to Lincoln (remember we have to go back to Garfield)?
Add Reagan for Clay. Another monkey wrench for no retracing.


This could be fun or torture.

 

[jjmcgo]

Askus3, would you please

Also, Mt. Clinton is not named after a president. It was named after N.Y. Governor Dewitt Clinton and renamed Mt. Pierce by the state of New Hampshire in 1913.
Also, Mt. Jackson is not named after the president but rather NH state geologist Charles T. Jackson.
Thank you.

 

[askus3]

I edited my post as best as I am going to. As far as names, I am aware of the actual mountains being named after other people but as I said -

(all presidential names count).

 

[SteveHiker]

ok, if you're going to count all Presidential names:

which Carter would you do?

I bet there's not a lot of bushwack activity on (Big) Cooldige, so there's probably no herd path to follow.

You didn't specify President of what, so would you include Davis?

You also left out Eisenhower and Hayes (in the Mahoosucs)

I obviously have too much time on my hands this afternoon.

 

[blueridge]

Somebody sure is grumpy. Take a chill pill jjmcgo.

 

[Rugger]

Don't forget Garfield!

 

[askus3]

I didn't know there was a Coolidge and I would say Carter Dome (the highest of the bunch for Carter. I was playing with the map and getting frustrated going back and forth as far as Pierce, so no I didn't leave out Eisenhower, I just didn't get that far. But then thought about getting silly with bushes sandwiched around Clinton.

 

[Puma concolor]

Be sure to head over to Vermont's Breadloaf Wilderness for Wilson, Roosevelt, Cleveland and Grant. Toe Cozy wrote up a classic trip report on this "lesser known" Presi Traverse several weeks ago.

I'm thinking of using this as a warm-up for my planned NH Presi Traverse in September.

 

[SteveHiker]

more proof I have too much free time.

I forgot to mention that there's a Mt Cleveland too. So I was wondering if you would have to climb Cleveland, then go climb Hayes, then go back to Cleveland. Since Cleveland served two terms with Hayes's term in between them

 

[Jim lombard]

I forgot to mention that there's a Mt Cleveland too.

Is that on RT-3 just off RT93? Have you ever climbed it? I drive by it all the time.

 

[Camper58]

Getting Mt. McKinley will be a bitch!

 

[AMF]

bush sandwiches... breadloaf.... STOP IT!!! I CAN"T TAKE ANY MORE!!!

This has got to be one of the stranger threads I've come across on this board! Folks have WAY too much time to kill.

But on a similar note, seeing as how Reagan booted a prior name off the list, are there any pres's that have been evicted? The only one that comes to mind is McKinley, where Denali seems to be the more accepted name these days.

 

[David Metsky]

But on a similar note, seeing as how Reagan booted a prior name off the list,

Um, Clay was never president. And most people continue to call it Mt Clay, I don't think the Reagan name will stick.

-dave-

 

[DougPaul]

But on a similar note, seeing as how Reagan booted a prior name off the list, are there any pres's that have been evicted?

The official name is still Clay. There is an official USGS bureau of names (don't have the name off hand). Place names have to be approved by them before they become official.

Doug

 

[Rugger]

Getting Mt. McKinley will be a bitch!

Since McKinley never finished his term, could you stop part way?

 

[Puck]

Since McKinley never finished his term, could you stop part way?

McKinley finished his first term and was assasinated during his second term.

During his first term March 1899 he signed legislation creating the Mt Ranier National Park.

 

[forestgnome]

Um, Clay was never president. And most people continue to call it Mt Clay, I don't think the Reagan name will stick.

-dave-

I believe Clay was a US Senator from the South, so I do believe Reagan is a much more fitting name of the lofty shoulder of Washington. Soon the name will be officially Mt Reagan. Subsequently, maps will label it Mt Reagan, then after years pass only us old-timers will remember the old name. Noone calls Mt Eisenhower by the old name of Mt Pleasant.

Carter, Clinton, Jackson, and Pierce are all named for people who were not presidents, just coincidences.

Tomorrow, I shall enjoy a fresh Samuel Adams atop Mt. Samuel Adams. While not a president, he was a pesky instigator for the great Revolution and a brewer. That's good enough for me!

Happy Trails!

 

[DougPaul]

I believe Clay was a US Senator from the South, so I do believe Reagan is a much more fitting name of the lofty shoulder of Washington. Soon the name will be officially Mt Reagan. Subsequently, maps will label it Mt Reagan, then after years pass only us old-timers will remember the old name. Noone calls Mt Eisenhower by the old name of Mt Pleasant.

No one?

The rules require the person to have been dead for 5 years and the proposer must convince the USGS board of names. A local connection is frequently required. (Reagan's connection is that the Fee Demonstration Project was started on his watch...)

Doug

 

[RoySwkr]

I believe Clay was a US Senator from the South...

Clay was actually from the border states, as Jack can tell you one of the impassioned speakers to keep that name at the legislative hearing didn't know which one when asked.

He was known as the "Great Compromiser" but as one of his accomplishments was starting the War of 1812 which was generally opposed in New England and one of his basic doctrines was spreading slaveries to more territories than allowed by the Missouri Compromise, I'm surprised that a NH peak was named after him back then and certainly it wouldn't be now.

Soon the name will be officially Mt Reagan.

Some people are hoping that guidelines for naming features in Wilderness will prevent this, although Congrees would probably override them if asked.

Subsequently, maps will label it Mt Reagan, then after years pass only us old-timers will remember the old name. Noone calls Mt Eisenhower by the old name of Mt Pleasant.

It took over 50 years and a guidebook editor and 4K club chairman from NH for "Pierce" to supersede "Clinton", and 20 years after South and Middle Carter were flipped on the USGS map before the AMC guide was changed.

 

[DougPaul]

He was known as the "Great Compromiser" but as one of his accomplishments was starting the War of 1812 which was generally opposed in New England and one of his basic doctrines was spreading slaveries to more territories than allowed by the Missouri Compromise, I'm surprised that a NH peak was named after him back then and certainly it wouldn't be now.

From: http://www.bettercamper.com/show/mountain_link.pl/mountain_id/3582

Clay was named by William Oakes in honor of the statesman Henry Clay, during one of the early expeditions to the summit of Washington in the early 1700s.

Doug