The fun beyond Redrock Pond 10/15/06

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NH_Mtn_Hiker

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It was nearly 8:30 when Hamtero and I departed Lincoln-Woods on the Pemi East Side Trail. Even though this would add a few minutes to our trip, it sure beat that awful Lincoln-Woods Trail. When we arrived at the stepping stones across the Pemi East Branch River near the Franconia campsites we discovered the water was just a tad high for us to get across without getting our feet wet. So, we decided to head upstream and find a better place to cross. After rock hopping upstream, finding a place to cross, bushwhacking over to the Wilderness Trail, and hiking back to the Wilderness boundary, we finally arrived at the Franconia Brook Trail an hour and twenty minutes later. Maybe we should have just taken the Lincoln-Woods Trail...naa!

The trip north on the F.B.T. was rather uneventful except for discovering the beaver pond in the trail was flooded above flood stage...any higher and the town of Lincoln may have to be evacuated. We also noticed that dispite the forecast calling for only a 10% chance of precipitation all day, dense clouds were rolling in over the Franconia Ridge. :eek:

Shortly after crossing the Hellgate and Redrock brooks we began our bushwhack towards the railroad grade that runs into Redrock Ravine. We reached it at about 12:30 and followed it to it's end. Along the way it had started snowing lightly. From the end of the railroad grade we followed old roads until the brook dried up then we rockhopped up the brook all the way to Redrock Pond arriving at the south-east corner of the pond at 2:00.

The pond has a talus field on it's west side. From up on these rocks we had a great view of the pond, West Bond, and a large talus slide heading up to the Bond/West Bond col. After taking some pics from here we headed on around the pond to the north side...the FUN side. Running down the north headwall of the ravine to within a hundred yards of the pond is a slide. There was no trouble getting to the slide as the runoff from it has cleared a path right to the pond. The slide was mostly medium to large rocks, slab at the top and a few areas of gravel. It appears to be a fairly recent slide.

It took about 45 minutes to climb the slide. We hardly noticed the freezing temps and the 20-30 mph wind. The views from the slide were fantastic even considering the heavy cloud cover and the snow which was beginning to blanket the ground. We then turned our attention to bushwhacking over to the Twinway. The bushwhack was easier than I had expected and we arrived at the twinway at 3:30 where we had lunch before heading west.

Most of the way to South Twin the Twinway was covered with about 1/4 inch of snow as well as some left over ice. The temperature was in the high 20's, and having just eaten, we were feeling a bit chilly. By the time we climbed to the top of South Twin though we were all warmed up. As we descended towards the Galehead hut, the clouds parted for a short time and gave us some sunshine, but it was short lived, and by the time we reached the hut at 5:00 the clouds had reclaimed the sky.

From the hut, which had just closed for the season, we bagged Galehead Mtn., then headed off down the Garfield Ridge Trail to the Gale River Trail and arrived at my car at 7:30. The 4 mile Gale River Trail took only an hour-and-a-half because we had made plans to get a G&H pizza for supper. ;)

In all a fun filled 20 mile, 11 hour hike with lots of great views along the way dispite the clouds, snow, and the freezing temps.

Pics are here.
 
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Nice Hike & Fantastic Pictures. I gotta drag a few friends out there sometime soon.

-Dr. Wu
 
Another remarkable bushwack!!!

Thanks for sharing another remarkable trip with us. Your TR's are real treasures. But if you're going to spend so much time in talus fields please spell learn talus. :D

talus (tā'ləs) , deposit of rock fragments detached from cliffs or mountain slopes by weathering and piled up at their bases. A talus is a common geologic feature in regions of high cliffs.

Where do you find the time to take 95 snap shots, upload them, and provide witty comments? Do you have a secretary and papparazi following you around on these treks? :D
 
Very Nice guys, that slide is amazing. The whole area is. It looks like something out west with the small field near the pond. Its brilliant in summer. -Mattl
 
Possibly as remote and certainly as special a place as the Whites offer.
Best in October when the grass turns tawny.
great photos!
 
I hope not, as it was about two months ago. I did find a lost bandana to carry out, maybe that put me over the low impact weight limit. I definitely like your hikes. Lazy spongebob fall hiker this year couldn't keep up. I need to get some of my Summer energy back.
 
So now you've been to both the east facing and west facing slides in the Red Rock area. What would a traverse across the floor of the Cirque be like If one was to access both? Still thinking of ski options here.
 
Nice trip report. I have asked Steve Smith this same question: do you think there is any fine-grained sediment in the bottom of Red Rock Pond, or is all covered with large rocks (talus blocks and/or boulders)?
 
Dr. Dasypodidae said:
Nice trip report. I have asked Steve Smith this same question: do you think there is any fine-grained sediment in the bottom of Red Rock Pond, or is all covered with large rocks (talus blocks and/or boulders)?
Surprisingly, even there there is a talus (how's that spelling?) field which bottoms out within feet of the pond, there did not appear to be more than a few rocks in the water. It appeared to be a sandy or muddy bottom.
 
Woo,hoo! Anyone on this Board want to help me carry some sediment coring equipment into Redrock Pond this winter?

I will need to get a permit from the USFS, but maybe they can take the gear in 3 miles on a sled with one of the snow machines.
 
yardsale said:
So now you've been to both the east facing and west facing slides in the Red Rock area. What would a traverse across the floor of the Cirque be like If one was to access both? Still thinking of ski options here.
Here's a pic of the two cirques in the NE corner of Redrock Ravine. Notice the heavily wooded ridge between the two. One way to hit both cirques would be to bushwhack into the west cirque then climb the slide to the Twinway...head east to the wide slide in the east cirque and descend it. The wide slide tops out within 10 yards of the Twinway. We could be back to the Franconia Brook Trail by dark...
 
i'll hump your load Dr. D

Dr. Dasypodidae said:
Woo,hoo! Anyone on this Board want to help me carry some sediment coring equipment into Redrock Pond this winter?

I will need to get a permit from the USFS, but maybe they can take the gear in 3 miles on a sled with one of the snow machines.

That would be pretty cool, I'll do it.
 
Redrock

Hi, I did a similar hike to this on 7/3 - day hike from lincoln woods. Route was this:

lincoln woods -> wildnerness boundary via mt bike.
franc. brook tr to N side of Redrock brook.
follow N side or Redrock brook, keeping left the entire route to RR pond.
up the slide that terminates in RR slide. If you look at this picture, which looks like it was taken from W.Bond, we climbed the LEFT MOST slide. (Pic courtesy NhMtnHiker) I.e., the slide on the OTHER side of the ridge that separates the two slides to the right of the picture - this one: (Pic courtesy NhMtnHiker). Just to be clear, there are three red'ish/sandcolored slides in the photo reaching high up to the twin way - two in the right-most cirque and one in the other left-most cirque. we took the one in the left-most cirque, the one the terminates at RR pond.

This is a different route than the one described here.

'whacked to the twinway from the top of the slide, about 1200' of hand-to-hand combat with the conifers (in some spots).

Banged a right on the twinway, over guyot, bond, b.cliff, and downthe b.cliff trail.

wildnerness tr to the bikes.
12 or so mins on the bikes and we were out.

start: 8:30am
end: 850pm

Gotta love those long summer days.

Beautiful, remote area of the White Mtns. We did happen upon some old iron - persumable left over from the days of logging in the whites. Found what appeared to be parts of an old stove, a saw, etc.

I have pics if anyone is interested...

later.
 
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Nice hike

I enjoyed this hike. A couple tid bits...

This area is majorly trompled. Many people are hiking Red Rock ravine and it's not as isolated as one might think.

The confluence is between 2800' and 2900'.

The slide above the pond is relatively recent and as loose as a goose in places.

Last week the water supply was a sparse as I've ever seen it. Guyot campsite water supply was less a trickle than it's usual trickle. Recent rain may have improved the situation.
 
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tallguinness said:
...This area is majorly trompled. Many people are hiking Red Rock ravine and it's not as isolated as one might think...

Shhhhh.... Don't tell anyone. :D

Seriously ;) :rolleyes: :D It's a really rough bushwhack, very dangerous with lots of hungry bears along the way, and there's more mosquitos and black flies out there than anywhere else. Did I mention the bears? ;) :rolleyes: :D

Hmmm, My spell checker just locked up on "majorly trompled". :p :)
 
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