Valuble Failure (Mt. Marshall)

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mavs00

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I suppose every hike is a learning experience, particularly in the early years, this trip report details my first failure at a non-winter ADK high peak (in my 39th attempt). For some, It will undoubtedly be boring, but if it conjures some past failure of your own that you learned from, I hope you’ll share it with me (or us).

To start, I should note that the high peaks area got 2+ inches of rain in the 30 hours preceding our hike. Sunday, 5/23/04. The hike started out cool (mid 50's) with drizzle. On this hike was myself, my wife and our two children (ages 13 & 11).

We started out at about 7:40 from the LOJ (Heart Lake) and planned on heading out towards Indian Pass and then up Cold Brook Pass to the herd path in the col between Iroquois & Marshall.

Things were fine for the first 2 miles, the trail was wet, but expectedly so, considering the rain. As we began to pass along the front of the towering (5000'+) McIntyre Range, we started noticing the occasional brook crossings kept getting larger and larger. Also, we began to distinctly hear the thunder of Indian Pass Brook as it ran parallel (but out of sight) of the trail.

Soon, the trail itself became a waterway. If the trail was flat, there was 6-8 inches of standing water, if there was any incline or decline; there was a running stream in it. We often found ourselves bushwhacking 10-15 yds on either side of the trail to avoid the quagmire of the trail.

Between miles 3-6, we had no fewer than 12 significant water crossings, each one requiring more care, more time and more planning in order to safely get past. By the way, water crossings with children can be significantly more challenging then it is with adults (shorter legs).

As we made the turn onto the Cold Brook Pass trail, the thunder of Indian Pass Brook, was surpassed by the deafening roar of Iroquois Pass Brook as it cascaded down the pass. There came a point where further crossings (the trail hopscotch’s from one side to the other for awhile) changed from merely annoying (in the valley) to downright dangerous (headed up to the pass) We made it to about 3100 feet.

There we reached a crossing that was too scary to contempate, literally 5-7 feet across through a wall of water that shot through a slot. We could have pressed on by climbing high above the notch and bushwhacking along some steep ledges to avoid the water, but one look at my 11 y/o daughter's chattering teeth and soaked gear sealed the deal, time to head the 6 miles (over the same crossings) back to the car. After a long and sloppy 4 hour we reached the car, no worse for the wear, but rich with things we learned.

LESSONS
  • The rainfall amounts in the 36 hours preceding a hike are significantly more important then those on hike day.
  • A lot of water can accumulate (and then drain) off a 5000'+ mountain range in a few hours
  • Much greater care and planning needs to be taken when attemping to get 48-50 inch bodies accross raging rivers than it does for 71 inch bodies.
  • Kids may not tell you when "enough is enough". They may not see the danger in crossing 5-7 foot accross a plunging wall of water. YOU MUST.
  • The risks you are personally willing to take should be reduced significanty when it comes to others (particularly your kids).
  • The water will eventually run off and return to normal levels within a few days. The mountain and trail will still be there for you to conquer on another day.

Thanks for indulging me.

See some trip photos HERE (Marshall - Failed attempt)
 
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High water crossings terrify me. You made the right choice - thanks for sharing the experience with us!
 
Aw shucks Tim, it was just a little water:eek: Some of those shots (the milder ones) remind me of a trip I did last fall to Stratton Pond and Dorset Mtn. The water was deep, but not raging (although I did slide the Subaru sideways through a crossing on my way home!). Deep and raging scares the cr*p out of me!

Hope I run into you and your family in July. I'll need all the local knowledge I can get! Marchall is on my list to do.

BTW, a successful trip is one where everyone is back home sleeping comfortably in their beds. I'm impressed with the way your kids handle this stuff.
 
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Glad to here everyone made it out ok. I didn’t end up traversing the Dix Range this weekend either. We decided it wasn’t worth climbing the slide on East Dix with all the water running off of it on Saturday morning. The fact that the South Fork of the Bouquet rose over a foot in the span of a couple hours and was still rising when we left was also a factor. The mountains will be there for next time though.
 
Amendment to your lessons:

• Never publicly state a perfect (summer) peakbag record. Nature will hear about and as soon as possible address the oversight.

Had myself in a similar situation in the Whites during a retreat from the twins last thanksgiving. Almost broke my wrist falling into a high creek and lost my walking stick. Not fun.
 
Kids are always the litmus test in any situation out or up there.
My son has helped me realize the difference between guts N brains more than once.

Thanks for sharing a valuable lesson.

Barry, Sr
 
Public pronouncement

Warren,
Just like "pointing the wall" in baseball, you're either gonna look like a hero or a a$$. I was shooting for greatness, and ended up looking like an a$$ (nothing new there).

Actually, I never expected to (nor particularly wanted) to make every summit the first time around. If it was too easy, anyone could do it. Besides, failure is the greatest teacher. I learn more from my unsucessful hikes than I do from most perfect summit views.

I can state with 100% certainty, that I will someday see the summit of Marshall (provided I don't hit by a bus before in the meantime). Well, oh never mind....................:D
 
You know, Mavs, it's those kinds of hikes that make for great memories.... :)

I'm glad everyone is safe.
 
Mavs00

Check out my response to the thread on Most # of Attempts. It took me three failures on Marshall before I got it. Its no big deal. Although it's disappointing at the time the memories are still great. And the insight you gained from the experience is invaluable.

See you on the trails this weekend. Probably Sawteeth, Gothics - also taking the troops to Phelps.
 
Tim...great story and photos...

It sounds like you persevered a lot longer and further than most folks would have.

Trips like that definitely have their value...you get to experience the raw power of nature first hand, and 40 years from now, your kids will probably say to you...Dad, remember that day we hiked a river?

You've got a great family...have fun. Maybe we'll run into each other on the trails this summer!
 
Thanks for sharing the report and pics Tim. Looks like your decision was the right and best one that day! It looked like the family enjoyed themselves and had a great sense of humor with the "Thumbs Down Pic":) Precious!

A buddy of mine and i hikes in the whites during the last rainy spell and ran into the flowing water on what i renamed the "Crawford Stream Trail". I haven't posted pics but they are much like yours.
 
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The mountains will always be there another day.

If you are going to hike, especially trailess peaks, there are going to be days that you don't reach the summit due to weather, trail conditions, or your own limitations ( yes-we all have limitations as much as we hate to admit it)

It happens to everyone. Don't sweat it - take the lessons (as you have) and move on!

KZ

:D
 
Tim,

I was thinking about you on Sunday. I knew there was some rain up north but did not know that much. As they get older I bet the kids will look back on this hike more often than most of the others.

Hope to see you on the trails sometime.

Mark
 
Mavs:
I am curious about the 'best' route to Marshall:
Is the route from the Loj via the Indian Pass trail a preferable route to Marshall? Better than via Upper Works and Herbert Brook? Six of one half dozen of the other?
 
ahhh...........Not quite sure.

I've yet to make the summit, so I'm not sure which is the best way or not. Looking at raw numbers, the Indian Pass (from the LOJ) is about 1 mile longer, and about the same vertical (even a little less).

I know Herbert Brook is the more popular approach and that Cold Brook pass (up to the Iroquois/Marshall col) and the herd path from there to the summit has never been described as anyones favorite route. I know down low, the path out towards Indian Pass from the LOJ is not bad, provided conditions were no the same as when we did it (i.e. WET).

I'm planning on doing it from Herbert Brook the next time. Half a dozen I suppose, but I quessthe most appropriete answer would come from someone that's done them both.
 
Be sure to keep me informed on your next attempt, I'd love to make another go at it.
 
Herbert Brook makes this hike a pleasure - except after a heavy rain. Calamity Brook trail doesn't bother me as much as that lousy trail along the west side of Flowed Land to the brook and Lake Colden.
 
just got back from the Marshall summit. You were correct, the Herbert Brook route is a real nice hike.;)
 
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